Navy Chief Petty Officer, Gunners Mate, discusses in-processing and handling of detainees. States that taped up goggles are put on detainees. Other units use hoods. States, "I've never seen anybody get kicked, punched, or sexually abused. Guys that go in for interrogation have never come out with signs of any unusual discomfort." Further states, "We can only follow instructions given to us. At one point the interrogators said they wanted the detainees to have 24 hours of no sleep. At that time I called the CG and have the JAG come down here, and have them rewrite the orders, because it was against the S.O.P. I'm not going to violate the S.O.P."
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gI eat Gunners Mate Chief Petty OfEce./1111111111111111 .U.S. Navy. We have a rotational watch where all of our people. 0-3 and below, stand a watch here no a fourhour minim in the JOC we stand. I'm also a mission tracker. and 3* re working on my qualificatioas for the JOC Chief I'm standing watch here also. Yes, we're a link bit shorthanded, and ail 0-3* and below stand guard. Originally we were trying to keep the 0-3s out, but we were burning our personnel out because we nem a little top heavy. We don't have any E-4s in my command. We have like four E-
h. four li-ds sod the rest areF.-7 and above. I've been here since April 9' s. Eve Warded here probably fewer than twenty times bat more than Lai. Being a guard here is time consuming when I have other duties. Tlw shill is. we worked eight liners tor* while. and we're down to four hours now. Originally I was doing six hours every 24 hours. Now l' all doing four hours every three to four days. St could be day shift, night shill, any four hour period, My duties as a guard are to make sure the prisoner's rights arc protected. that they get three squares a day. this they have water. that they're allowed to go to the bathroom. and that nothing happens to them that I wouldn't want my mother to see. The detainees come here In the beck of the vehicles. The vehicle with detainees will snme into the beck. Well pull them out one at a time bring them up to the front, and start the in processing. During in-processing they look very disoriented, very seared- very dim and usually they owed bad. They're wearing wtotcver they had an at the time we detained them. We usually have goggles on them. We have goggles that are tapped upSc, they can't see anything. When they arrive and they get out ache vehicle. they're in goggles. If you've blindfold JOrnfOne with a cloth. they can sec Own. MOM cloth you Can see through. I just took one of the prisoners out who was blindfolded. He was able
to step over the racks and see everyttikng he wit doing. When we first started. we had the hoods on. but when everything started happening. afterwards they were no tengerallowed. We stopped using the hoods recently. We would leave the hoods on the whole time. They were replaced with the souks, 5-2, I believe, is still using blindtblds. Some units use blindfolds. and some units use goggles • Goggles ere a Navy thing. The goggles have not been on for the Int watch rye been on. I've actually been off for the last week. training. Its the first time I've been back in a week. And there arc no goggles on today.
The Ian week when I was bete, they were on, depending also on who the person is. Some people arc wrong place, wrong time. They're treated like I would treat an uncle that is visiting. When they were hooded. if they were wrong Phlee• mane time* the hood came off. 9irlten they're in their cell, they take them up. When we reeve them' we make
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sure they can't sec. From inside the holding arc to the latrine. they wear goggles. Ooze I have them oa the latrine. depending on who they art. I will let them have a little bit of movement. ill give them about two or three feet of separation because I) that's private businest.2) they can handle h themselves, they've been doing it for quite a few yearn, and I really don't like tottehing them while they're wiping thernstelves. 1 take them off
when they're out them. so they can actually get it is the hole. Goggles back on. and thee
they're led hack in. We try to limit them seeing what the inside of the facility looks like. During in /accessing we bring them *ACM ata time. We give them &hygiene check. We usually have than take their clothes off. We shower them. and let them soap up. We
take them in to see the doctor. and give them a complete check op. before they're put back into one of the cells. They wearjumpsults. The medical screening sheet is kept by the medical personnel. There's a log put up on the door. We log in when they eat;
usually we keep a Wide of wow in the cell so they can drink at argnitne. and when they
leave their eel. There's a clipboard on the outside orate cell identifying/ who's in that
and who the capturing agent is, so we know who's responsible for that personnel. There's also a log sheet on there, so every dine they leave that mil. it's loggod. If they so take • pee. it's logged. We have to log when we -reed them. when they take a shower.
because they're authociaed only showers the hygiene purposes, or if they soil themselves. ttO more than three *mess a day in a 241tour period. We let them out to just wash off. Shoestring them is very man intensive. We try to shower them, every other day. It cuts down on the smell of the facility. They're in the cell until one of their capturing *gem
brings a team in for interrogation, so they can talk to them. Then they come in here. How lune they're in here varies. Some people like to tett their whole story t guts*. Ent not inside when they do this.
The fast bottle of water should be in the cell when they move in and it nitetwaily is. When I put somebody in their cell. I try to make sure that they have water accessible. There is usually one small thing to get them of'the ground. but • Nil cowing is notalways available right away. They don't always get one of the big. fluffy blankets right away. If you see there arc a couple of patches in there. not huge by any means. but
est first getenough to get them off the marble, 'Dare " blanket
I don't know system in them on a
floor. and on mat and no blanket I have nut seen someone in there with no tar• and no blanket fax the entire 72 hours he was here. i think the longest that anybody would go without a Mat or blanket was about 40 bows, from my bee rermliectioo. That was a pawn that had tried to fight with the guards two or three time, and it. venially took
Iwo people to subdue him.
for bathroom breaks. they actually ask for it, "Tabue. We have I list on the wo:. what certain phrases mean. It we're riot mac we'll ask them, and they'll usually know My job is to take care of them. feed them, and make scut they're healthy when they
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leave. They go outside to the latrine but we do have a facility inside. We have an gentleman. We had a couple that had hum legs. Before. we didn't have the nice lama e there. We keep upgrading this place: We got the MC in there recently. It was starting t. get pretty warm, so we have upgraded to keep it at a reasonable level. We take urine bunk.) out. The smell is enough without that in here. The only thing hallway close to being abusive was that the detainees were showering a little close together. They dial,
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check the log book to see when the shower was, because if someone soils thansetves. they get a shower, With a lot of the health and hygiene hem. there's a lot of diarrhea, and they're not quite used to some of the food we feed them. so if they soil themselves they get a shower, and then they gave them a shower at the mound time taste, which was like within tour or five hours. Nothing aimed at being belligerent by any means. They do not iiite water. I thoroughly believe they all know whet to do with soap. If you give a dctabee a bat of soap and you get them wet, they'll gladly wash themselves off. They like being clean, it's 'Ming wet that they hate. Keeping them wet would annoy them in the long run. 1' ve never seen anybody get kicked, punched, or sexually abused- GuYA that to in for interrogations have never come out with signs deny unusual discomfort. They re offered throe meals a day. if you cheek the logs, some people refuse 33 at. t've never known any detainee to be denied food or water. There are some times when they're told to sand. We have a criteria on the wall, but that b only its the first 12 or se hours. 12 to 24 hours. Stand for 45 minutes, sit for 15, stand for 30 minutes:and sit for
15. The guards are monitoring that if they leave the night cadets and signed by the
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team. As far as .1 know, they never tum the A/C off i've sect: them showued twice. then interrogated. This is the first A/C we've had. The other room just got erne. They're herd to come by. I'd have to cheek the new policy. but the old pone,/ was that they're guaranteed at least fair haws of sleep a day. No stress positions could be used without written authorisation. I'd be the first to tell you that we've bad e lot of maids
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that would not %Dow the criteria correctly. They'd ict them an for more than l5 That was the worst ease scenario S.O.P. If someone stands to long, they start getting wobbly. WC make sure slick togs get a chance to rest. and if someone starts to get wobbly, 111 have him sic down, bonus* the last thing I'd want is for mancone to fall and hit their heads. When someone's been kneeling or Sitliev fax too long. and you stand them up tight away. their legs are .141-0. We're not allowed to evoke conversations or talk to than by any means. Wit can only follow instructions given to us. We are not here to abuse the prisoners. Our job is to guard the prisoners. and if we see anything report rt. Al one point the bumps= said they wanted the detainees to have 24 hours of no slicp. Atha time 1 called my CO and have the SAG come down hem and have drum rewrite the orders. because it was against the SAP. I'm not going in violate the S.0.1'
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