Sworn statement discussing interrogation procedures and techniques. States, "We used 'Mutt and Jeff' with one of them being assertive, but probably not more than 20% of the time." Continues, "Ninety-nine percent of the time if there was an injury it happened at objective. For good order and discipline, if a detainee was being uncooperative ... they were restrained on the ground." Discusses interpreters, and states, "We may have left detainees alone with an interpreter for a short period of time but it was not SOP or a matter of course." States that detainees were sometimes blindfolded during interrogations.
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unit and run a tactical inierroption center hem where we process 1 and i gate them to get actionable intelligence. We ware authorized to keep designees for
?DF would put than through a review process and either masse them to the Iraqi police, or send than on to long term 'armament at Abu Olmtib. I did personally ask some of them detainees
whether they were 1fitadists or conducted direct fire snacks. but not in a structured
environment. I was never in the interoption room with the interpreter asking questions.
I was .present at interrogations flet brief periods of time checking on the process. It was
not my job to interrogate, but I was periodically present. The interrogation process would
have the detain' cc sitting in the interrogation room, the lomilheter sot one or two
interrogators working through the interpreters. They would prepare SDRs prior to
interrogation and risk questions through the iMerpreter while sitting in plastic scats and
collate the information. They would keep him there and try to identify whether he was
detainees. The
tolling the truth and try to cross-reference with information from other
Tilt would show who the primary interrogator Wag. PO** no one else. There were
only 4 people involved In interroption. and they were either all lament or rotating in and
out. Interrogators would do interrogations as *Wee guys," and if the interrogation was
not going as planned, they would ratchet up to be more aggrcuive, increasing the decible
of their voice. We used "Mutt and Jeff," with one of them being ussstivc, bat probably
not more than 20 percent of the time. Normany we would risk and get information.
stories
correlate the information. and show the detainee where he was lying and than their
would change. The way we enters room on target, breaching the door and flooding the
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Morn, the 'Assassin speed, they am off-itilta from the beginning. Ninety-nine percent of the time if there was an injury it happened at the objective. For good order and discipline, if a detainee was being uncooperative, not adhering to instruction, especially if
they were fighting, they the ground. I only saw this twice with one 3detainee and that was • t is ate of the masons we had sand is the "' pit. braids the i never any injuries. We may have loft detainees atone with an interpreter fora short period of time but it not SOP or a MOW of course. One interpreter lives in Mosul. We call him tad another eg interpreter was NIA. When I described the aggressive tone used by imerroptors, it never exceeded the level a Seal Instructor would use towards a trainee. The Seal Instructor would be worse. The detainee would sometimes be blindfolded daring humrogatioce. Our interpreters would be masked during intCn'ollatinn In the interrogations I witnessed the detainees were unmasked and looking eye to eye with the interrogator. We would tell detainees that we might put word on the street that they'had • given up information. There were no serious threats of physical harm ever made. Nome of the detainees ever had an injury other than a small cut or bruise.
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HAVE READ OR HAVE HAD READ TO ME THIS STA p WHICH BEGINS ON PAGE 1 AND ENDS ON PAGE . I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CONTENTS OF THE ENTIRE STATEMENT MADE BY ME. THE STATEMENT IS MIL I !MVP INITIALED ALL CORRECTIONS AND HAVE IN MAI.BD me BOTTOM OF EACH PAGE C'ON'TAINING THIS STATEMENT. i HAVE MADE 11115 STATEMENT FREELY WITHOUT HOPE OF BENEFIT OR REWARD, wrmovr THREAT OF PUNISHMENT, AND WITHOUT' COERCION, UNLAWFUL INFLUENCE, OR CEMENT.
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