Sworn statement by an intelligence analyst responsible for pre-briefing and post-briefing interrogators about detainees. Talks about interrogation procedures. Mentions that "a detainee came to us, who is now at Abu Ghraib. When he came he was catatonic... It came out that he was tortured.... Based on his physical appearance, there was no other explanation." Emphasizes that a number of allegations of abuse were based entirely on hearsay, and states, "I have nothing to substantiate, one way or another, abusive behavior in detention facilities." States that detainees captured or held by "Spanish, Kurds, Italians, and Special Forces, came in a bit more bruised than others." Regarding off-the-books facilities: "[Redacted] is definitely running an interrogation facility somewhere. I have no idea where it is located. They can't be reached by SIPR, NIPR or DNVT.... This is why we weren't getting the reports, because they don't write IRs, PIRs or SIRs. They write INSUMs, intelligence summaries, off their interrogations, then the guy is telling me they're holding them for two weeks, 72 hours, they're definitely being held somewhere. [Redacted] told me they were holding them for two weeks."
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I am the intettlgence amble Or all the iserroguom atalmatiee of my jobs is to prebrief and pow brief all the
=aidfloiont wbo the detabues are, and get a `I pubrief and post-brief the interrogators .
be fo r ad:mines who comes In from. say. Mohammed's Am, or Sc vim enema for aoaeedsal hitS vinyls borne IBM My job is to know pretty such everything about vehicle humans. what groups are openttioll them, white the &Mk= was =Weds What pi* be might be operating with, what his religious background would be. what a good graft to baerfisPie me detainee would be basal On this informanou The intetrogUor is art urgers on how to interrogate, and 1 im the 'object matter expert coaching die leserroptor on what kinds of ituellIgence he sbouI be looking; for. What line of quedoolog be
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eet_ Petelle. enact, easel= or dedeny whatever be might be looking for. My coolant with detainees is limbed. If I'm in Mit 'se. sad.1 me lecoU lateneles whe rum or whatever bee come in with,ith t ru sit in the booth and listen to the
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isterrogadon, and I might asp pose a question to the interrogator inside the booth.
Detainee sum mplaia about the •tions he was in at the cost who delivered him, who he was with prior. Aik the paint i aorto spa an.a. s diem was an assumpdoe that that's who be was talking about. That was the caparinglallit and the nal that de lvat him here. That was the only other wit with him, to my 1030w/edge.
slit made my prior noteonot it was from after speaking to two intertoptort, one who
was screening Is Abu Gaud% that they'd kept getting detainees 1Mt mandeeed this
is a hard cote int r . that was coming from
who spoke was saying that he woe and there's
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dhotis on a ole came in, all WM was in Ids packet, was a pep paper, basically saying it was a confinsion slid tunny Ls a Pam Yes have two MOM simmaetas. a CPA of end then all t e U. which brands interroptio . reports during his. lack of a be word. int areendon. Normally conk:Woos are mitten in Arabic, signed, slang with the English transcription beads It. This as was strictly made me =pea die antheadoity of 'vitas:: sworn
auto steeserent. Thu. along with information I got as other interrogators, I elms idea that 's hem. So I r e that statement about it and two later a representadve tots 534 came down nag, a •
OG They came here at clarify the tut of information that was In that guy's folder. Killed duet. I think 411111111111atigla have aided dun, because this ggtuiyy was a high sensitive tarp% but based on what was in his folder. was inconststent. When they these ate the guy's eliepdons. After egimkiag to them I realised there was lot more
down hem Hu
on that detainee that OWE got to us. I've personalty never swot any of it Irmo.
inermadoa oompletely. The reason I said this was when I was geeing imerviowed for this Mu-solution.8 was toothed,* this. and the Mayor who was in there, were saying "if you know of and are net telling to jut nailed',so all of us were like, we've beard lot's of stuff. I dithet know where thaknhwlorq was ma said I
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. sod they said doe. If i bad to do this all over spin I would not make this same statement I made to Vaini
shweollot it Meopletely hearsay that I can't coat= or deity. Another detainee that mime through that group. in now Abs Ohne% when be came to to be was tratatook. There was drool all over himself, he was plating all
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It out that he was
and they was buically mina yeah be: We weren't ithantston, we were tat that fins prior to condos to us, sal it winalccasitid a WNW= en the detainee, the amp] people that were wading...thatingfaimd CO he wet COMM* retarded.kCadomeneet
m bac
was made out of kt of modes that were pitched erased
ed tot were to am dreetion, but siker doing Amber interviews and= 01 about the subject a lot low things have caw to This the guy referred es in We that needed a mat
A counter iniPill 1SSM MOMS sweet In downtown Baghdad somewhere told me be was retarded. probably wouldn't say this prior senement at all, based an bete say information. Ifthey were Wing 1.616:ally about this Case f would say 'The hard kw other ' . I wasn't the one who type
d this, this was more about, other than the briatipdoet. COW back sad dimmed off another pear she ewe in, handed it at en, at said sip it. This is striedy coming from the ealeassita hid salt 334 ad aeon of ser of where they was conies front. The most Wampum was down here._ and we didn't swim the detainee's commis after our salaamed= was dome. He pve a lot more itdormadon about how his iteerrogoioe went with that detainee specifically, ad what the &Mises was Wing him aid I said 'Oh. I wish I never would have said this other stemma based on...' I can't say that It wasn't Me, sod I can't that not asing another interroptor to do their dim work. I can't say k either way. The imerrogator who's hearoVrious for Stoup d
M SF. He's an operator but he's prior CI sod just talking at hint about his koowled. of ' nothing that day were doing teemed out the ordinuy. He mid me au the detainee helically tare the inflamed= and when the imbue kit be wee going down the road of ruing is=1 be basically retracted the vahole thing saying "I didn't say Ow, and I'm not pie' at sip airbag'.
The acensthous of a Weans tram b e ens is Ileum informatiom DeartaY raw rbc dogma el as issalstr from
our heenalasin. There's a la of hearsay infooration going around here. There's a lot of sodf wine that a lot these Ws, dmunits, bog Co to dasiame for a while to the wounds bad tease they get here. They don't come with a trial here. They met medilly prior to coming here, if there
ally Wafted hest. sou =Win could've batmen as these detainees la so rosas• or ooffirderd bailee, there's not. flat's fatty wo do medical aseeninas here. as slant a receipt, at we're notliable foe WWI they look like when they gat here. But thenagain we've had detainee' with compindy busted faces some from a
tali, kJ= Imposed in the raid. I can't .iusdty he's log from die ears be be was tortured, or be got bun lookedSi the head because be was reaching for an AK in the . Whatever the units are ping to ted ea. we're load or aye to take atheir word, when the detainee Won up. I dial sitin on the medical weenie., but I do see the medical w reportsbecame they're pot in their des, but 1 can't justly and ten yea that a guy's blooding from dm ears. that that BM have been from,
. That sWemeet about 'bleeding from the ear' and ems other things came Like I said. based guy's padoet when be first got hoe. and emainuous series tam Whew interrogators • thought it was.image* of ado". that any of this could very wet be sling on, I can't say either way, Wrest to tat you ail law* about IL. this milk occur, just in case. Life I said, this is all Woman that been told to me by inteaogators..
been at this IMF, I think dna February. Prior as that I was at Abs Obtalb.Whether It's fueled by hoar ray or otherwise, I do have a way to same that acme units may geserally treat detainees boner than others. Vilna I was waling at Abu. detainees would cane up with wounds on them. If that happened in the Reid or during anbaerrogation, I don't !mow.
The WY units that I physically saw sattio4 roughed up came from the Minns and the Spanith. Other than that, no. I now saw u.
Pang a guy by his ads and shrouded him spinet the wall - I never saw it: they came off as every other detainer
Since rye been here Sir, I have not sew any treads.
Dietaries were coming into Abu Math from all over the plan, through the satire Corm operations. SF had more detainees than
wpm eke that were a kW moot bruised up, without aorn that at how that mated or where in the process. I cleft WI to
that at all. Just, visually. I saw detainees brouaht in. We all Wow that the Kurds hs the north jack folks up. As well in the
Spanish and the Itstax la Mal that chair detainees. Spanish. Kurds. Italian and Special Force, came in a lithe bit more bruised
than other detainees. I'm not saying other detainees have not come in that way, I'm just saying the trend, it was milk obvious. By
the ad, SF didn't come by that often.
But I have nothing to subsemdate, one way or another. abusive behavior in a Woman facility. Theta isn't anything different that
could nodes in their activity Reior to February and subsequem to February. As Abu Oaths yen saw detainees coming in a little
• more bruised ep from the Huai I modiened above, bit here, no. I cannot sit here and tell you that I've man any group. b any
(4 wads that have deednees ebrow_up at with difkreot hovels of in my. I've been here since middle of Ftheasy. This all =IC about from1/1111111•MMIS statement, as well as this retarded papaws the ewe down as well. Detainees have (evened at interrogators who have reported to me. Thai was WS= I was gam with that and I pan it was miaepresented based off my earldom not understands' the flow of COMMUniestien between a amine, laSaFTagatat, and me. Persoaally I hit any better or worse. When this we was
this was in doecuseuks4dirmitra we awn having, this the week this problamiUhr
mialle, w went all and vthat we've seen the past. and there as o. me
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ATEMIENT iceatinusco I've see04111111.11811 their hadiwtht, ree men thistans or son•Ametican a detainee
Rote I bad 11106 -m towropes ell me `Yeah, there Ire Out of that was
op like a Kama and hafts the gbh oat of
was tellies I had another it* ten me, Yak ells guy bra jut come dcitli
frantilligmas wen. odd 'they LratoPfeaml we ill Ow beck of a carr,,
le wee
deceseuted, sal be was bleeding bm his ears. I got the old light bulb in ® head sad den" well awes all dee
aremectioa. list's belie,* whet 1 dolma; I mahe amneedoes *twom butemation and Man the pp me try to poet to e
dire:doe. Ile leas coefideot now in them coomethree tbee wheat I ash the memo Wore became heete.1 I MMI
Vet= to
the sea of the units sod the that mealy did 6a and beard their aide of the story. This is a tee deed story
fee a denims, y from 6e dembee's ied not freer the guy who ectually conducted the immtvegatoes.
McKim woo up. Yam I was at Abu Obralb prima. the dm of moadis I was a sammer whidt
moth& is wentsr=lscseerwrieg
I Mt* I bad three dease tell me they
Wade to wen
itj cliedust ck after speaking ut these loth. I had in my mite from the November to amt fnme
m being a problem area. rve also head a lot of detaimes report stuff that was common with the Republican Guild. Comma
miff the Republican Ossid was Mows for beck in the day, they would come in hem and say we we dein it. I 140 do" a
U.S. intorrospitor would ahlk a jdat she weer book up a am's sea. That was Demon with the Republica Guard. sad we'd
bar it di She dew So you had to you beard with a grain of ds. The only key Meg was add I
soar buy who opened mad and before weweten't &mins she asradw unit. eek was Fein ATM most
detir signature cat the west* of het, this 's.rt from dere, Ore nmed's comfits hoot tame.My
pc astom= how the mud was dm be wax
to the prior sod now he's not ronith this
, what is wrong wwe bead out that huh mated so when they get caught. basically do the same thing.
this py was doing. You can't es out of Sinn eider way.
When I
was at Abu 434:alb, aid keyed in ma/8r , or became aware of it, I wasn't swats of the specific mit that wet
opt:Via out of sad I don't
was °waft daze al that time. What I mthatead is Mete, I don't b3
ie. they're • 4 aeside ENG, --typossibly
Tbe report is11%0 nu Amnion. it ' s a gay up m a ot 1 ,4. c
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anyttes :wearing a Kuwaiti sultan or he's just a Middle
Can type guy. There's maneuver
owesVomit complex thel1111111Mhappete to be at
nary reason I've beer talking aboutallnis that the entire time I've be here arq job is to read the packets and do
of these pekes, iffixte atom it &Mu out which unit deamed and fled* out where they're
outtritar
dos ram Ow investiptien is Mere the guy was arrested to put towards each i iiiltiers operstiog in the
that's hew I Mow that the ocarina that have tem complaints& here are made' from the area, along with
ft/110,1ting unit sip astre on dm papenteet sayingra piss to say the stres I'm est going to
my sera. t ai
ams a
spar operate at aacsiiis, vast ewes. m I can't tell you om dos
this Om would be tamed. Them very sell could of War mks operating out of the complat.er=
to a conelosiou based on the firs that a &mime says, aid the only dessboees say that are
. dasairaws from
ae. tha mattes mit and were cosepfa. it would have ailibff
cupol
my Man- The andille. Prom my Aho Ghndb time,
was In my mind, it wasa'
and a specific is was jug geograhic. Aho wall of boon • or Ic •
soldier.
1 aui not awate AI
That's the juyalElliallas. been:decrial to. that's he's been beatingshout.
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I have an samcssois or is *484 qday,
I bow Mat ody by mom PoiiMe which is area. fat as the hearsay =Wm on what boa doing Iso
that area, I've coke beard it tri two detainees. who's still Isere. and one about srstrbe llama
They have MR p etptlissaLereilMINI 'Cha
frit/C2 Abl • 'I tae dwee =We ado, nod ember 40, are two ' rent
who the same
. dao beard, but doe't remember, there was s different mme he was using, this cam from
amber interroptor. but I dos t steamer Ma be said his name mt.
At Abu Ohrath, it the weenies tell over dere, those guys maybe talk as 40 detainer a day, they just lave a ma Arptitalt of
detainees care* than all ent
mew that's why you hear a kit MOM of the stories than you would here. Here. t but tame
Ikea
two detainees and with for me, it clicked:
It's safe to 111111018142C this atmement and to say that having reviewed this sad thought Man it, and giver • from
November until sow, that most rellectice. I might be mom concerned dean not about the activities at and
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." ilfoonation to make any reel type of cancbalon to this topic is definitely tree. My reluctance to giving hearsay or tumor. Wt 1iTIS any stoop, now come from this Abe Qua* thing. I've seen a lot of spud guys either find or geuing rolled up became ofudormatioth and I don't want to attribute bed news nom thg towards somebody based as any motor and lack of knowledge.be very aped& about this: that all of this is rumors and I cannot validly say t sew this i don't believe in
. Mk don't feel right *out it, and would bate to, Sr hick of bane words, Rub a wbeb-bent minis a eek. wit P142114 up. I believe ia siv the nook bean something sal hearsay informed= can't be valithM. I add swear by Mk
oeml lo be looked at at validlythat
I'm ath Mita that k's not kaPPaiDS:
. It's hearmy Wormed= coming from multiple different rotates.
When I wee at Aim garb. Special Forces broughtge damtly_ ered them through. ItWpm with group to, I want to say they go 39th DCT, they being What I was told was day have lakoritake thishold the were saying. babow they're dews to 72 boors, and when to Abe Obraib, and at times they filtered
thews MO weeks. that's what
they can't bold them say lamer, they'll Aker them through 39th and their AO, %doll bring than down here.
is definitely an Onerropilon facility somewhere. have no idea where it is lamed. They can't be melted by
SIPS. NIPS. ec DNVT, Ira off of telephooe. The is why we weren't get the reports, became they don't worse
Ilk Ms. or Sas. They wilts intellipme summaries, off their Iwo the re is lolling 01° they're
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bolding dam far two weeks, 72 hoots, they're definhdy beteg held me they were holding them for
two wedge. At lees that's whet be told roe Ida name was.have no 'idea if than for 72 hours up to two gawks at the 39th 1138 DetentionPhajjk,3 know why they Mos thertm swore 396 an have a DIP at something.etheffer five prisoners at a time.NEM and then other SP oldie deal tradfer prisoners here. They go through same DIF
somewhere.
Other train, when 82nd was ' oat of mu 18, 19. they were balding detainees and doing their own interrogations. A lot leb-eene lee Mering emblem aid . No. mat in BM, but we've complained Moth it women= time, to gmdemises here at soon as possible, but they're it. IAD before, took a guy our of hers, sat brought him beck to a ISM
WWI= welt to be kszroPtod. It makes toady no aeon, bat it's definitely happeeing. I can't eadisea Ow. but Its fairly obvious
that menaimm the detainees ere being oipmeod and bald ki anoolmerrogothon type area. llta=linstethe'v
uelellemed to a EF.
bag treamonod up here. Some goys will he armed. for SF twit. or my other mit so the Berk and
ICI% an ody hold a guy for *IMO days. Then you're got who was held for two weeks before we got him and beoe4 at the MY fat dreg tam. He was held somewhere else. prior dia. Or he mold have very well been as the
INF ait the 39di guys could am have; records would not indicate where ke was saying. But you could age the dam
of apron to dm tone be got bete, that it was two plus wedce. We baskallyjust mot= for when be gets here.
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