Formica Report Annex 48: Statement of Chief Warrant Officer 3

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No administratively in charge abatis Me Navy and the FOB whim they come down, I'm Nee the cadre, they put the cords sod disk itherroption Matt.. Yea Sir, I'm in chars of cadre at the tacility'and we have myself and two NCOICs. We Wm one of all alimitistrative Innen, and I do oversight on the lotertogarkos and be thernIMIIMPlimINNIM cooing down to CJSOTF. I'm
the achninisoadve 01C. I take care of all the .the twofers adenines. and that type of thing. I help the FOB in theNavy with inserrogadons, and also to due toes CISOTF. See of a lack of Al trades Sir. My MOS is 33113, counter Intelligence. rg go in card oversee If they have pms, help than out, dunking about bow to do
septesches. I'll take some foe them. sometimes III Wartime for them. Whatever they need. Remy need me to come in there sad move detainees into the plane, because we didn't have guards on duty at the time. When we do in pomeim there's a lot of work to be don. so ru stand and do some eCtteakIN for them. We pt them bare information. like if they're muted and that type of thing. We've bad a policy here that if you catch them yen clean them, so if the FOR takes in detainees. they'll providea guard tome, and if the Navy aloes in detainees they'll help provide a guard fame. Sir I'm not mire being OIC of the deemed=thoMity mid being imbed with late rroproas is it spilt funnioo or not. but tot a teem Mayer. so 1 try to help oat the best I can. It
and be a eaelliet of imams sit If we didn't have an NCOIC so back me up. 1 mash f were doing oder duties and Kt sate ID k, and I was the ooly person them, I think re could be r•iga But we do a pretty good job Fir making site all the . ve Inedolo are !toadied. It's been fur or famine. [went on coutgay leave for shwa a month and before dist. we
some detainees in for a couple of days and we'd p a week, two weeks. said Do on would come. So to staff a full-tion Ind people to sit for 2 week and people 61611 even know if we were sang to set detainees, the bast was to have a MI-doe-.thy mid more than likely that 've been established and the last couple of weeks we've been bury. so Ws bosso son
necesszy and we've made Buse we've got a 24 hour pregame, and when we've gat people there that's required, and we want mmake sue we bare messiahs Axe you've got Navy and Army folks there You won person who tan Set loom oostimatY•
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of *lap. and that's k's titers,Ind On we have no coo at, ear:axially we're wastes seers to Mu a whole botch of
pp down there for I said Sir, we've had weeks at a time wine we've hod nobody in there. Yes Sir we do have
somebody in Were sow. t can't remember when we exactly started up. Meow we got here in January. I don't believe we even
bad it in earnest midi _maybe lam Febrility. Mardi. I'd have to deck. We've bad a Major. that was down Mete for a good period
of rime, that was the OIC whoa they Btu said officially an OIC of the facility, and that's when I think they started having more
framing operations and it we more required to have mom oversight when we bad more people. Whim we opened in Me February f don't think it was establithed at a full•time facility. We would have them come down. for example, when they broughtie a topple of ye we'd down, we'd have apart fora on those two guys, we'd make sae t hat they were in far bad guys that
O. Caine oat the eetive. If wInd'at bad guys, we'd put them on the sweets so they wouldn't get dee up in the system at Abu
Ohrelb. . So we bel maybe 2 or 3 days where wed have somethe Ms. but mem wasn't a freaky so that k would requite an OK. It was a lmpocary spec where wr could sort
out who we had and send them to AM: G. I think the Commander's imam was to =sum that we had, if we were going to do this ona regain basis, which I originally don't think was the intent, that we would have a seehanion where by we amid have moreoven* and coma, so we could nobs sure that everything runs properly and to standard. so we could put 1110 place all the safepuds we *elided to ensure that everyone was doing the ft,Uthing, and 10 make sure we bad Moller food. proper clothing-
Ito., etc., proper saniguarde, and that's bow we got utntithad. We published a FItAGO and I'd have to look at the FRAGO well, where they put me as the OIC of the facility. I'm Dot sure the date of the FRAGO Sir. It was closer to February Sir. allIlmgeldid some somenings at another building and I'm not sum bow many they did or what they did in the building. I &mow vo•
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id, TRITEMENT IContitemci Et a futility at by the fmot pm, then I ' if we could do acreeohtss there, and 1 thought it was unacconatte. Mebut I have so knowledge shot .. as far at I know. Dave Do historical koowiedge or references to
. tho domed= beaky here and 'heaver they did, did le this sereetting building?farm await daisy DIP that they had Sir. I have not beard or are aware of my nadeteurness elm how &mimes are treatedLae in this freaky. or do you knowledge of say iodination that.they'd beta abused? I have an heard my undeteurrows
dhow things were here Wean took over? As far is the aooa we've had MI. guys, Illguys. but
my due at yam's come doves to talk to detainees 're always escorted. line do those in wt. bat we don't. every
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hem soother FOB prior, there's only been a heedful of interrogators. we short Sir. The employees don't in:mope Sir.
6 Dry translate Sir. Imerroptors are all iniiinry or PDI. I have never 114112=alrprets.cirizen genie in andisotopic? I have 'lever tweed of a pl y mused SIIINIImMthM or AP limes a detainee a limbs, when he Is loprocessed. mast hours later. With 3peoitie Sir, it would be leas than several boos. because we wouldn't be is 1 rash. They Set in the Willy aid they're WNW water. The detainee gets wain: he always has Mat. If the detainee starts Wag about ieformados. the laternapter will allow hho as give his mamba end scan tildes ban quendona, so If ate Pty's righthowever thisthen wady to talk. he'll sit than and do that. The oho guys have to wait The other pu are=r minUspry's lotosepted. Thum the beglanko we
with soap , towel him oil, an hist in Jumpsuit, goes Inaboldiag facility. The next.guy can m.
Nes. typecast% takes I poem toughly 45 rnem, 3 people, couple of lam Probably after everybody is dew with
the Inesoings. Once they're settled is their cell, they get wow. If they sat 5w water during their inprocessket. we'll give themwater. At the end of theirro.sanc we'll bale them a Moth* and water. we'll issue food 0730, 01101ilt. so if they cone inMCC widdl is the meal dthe. by we'll give them food and water. Daring the *axes- ang they don't get a Market.
Some time the next day before eight they get a blanket. $ o'clock. thereabouts, we usually wait lied the end of the chow shift so
that everybody eats, sod well an how much we've gat left over. If we've only got 3 guys, k's prob)got, they'll let more foodthan they want, ' o'clock. 9 o'clock. Each individual pm a plats of • warns, biscuit. Jake. canoed nynr"'. If we meat of food. they wookket get chow hell food, We'd give than so 10,E if that was the cam. MU hitch at about noon to 1
Diana is typically $ o'clock. depending on 'then be .up the chow. Hell come back with big dm food. Welt take
of the serving containers sod an them an individual and them to the detainees. They go outside endue theloom facility. There's a point ad doe when we all use onside bathaoott facility. They see 'aim'. I and to Pee. Wel
them cut, they take a pee. We'll lee them wag their haads and they mote back to their cell. At oigithime marmoset they'll
pee in the Wks rather than go cu. We have 2 rooms on either side. Those rooms are sandaled for people who are going
be reamed or aresupplying lefermation sod we want to keep them sepegassd front the other pr oaa s. In tease room they
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have been instructed to bboeleasi the door, and are immediody taken out to use the bathroom. fa my expoitsce seen this
where we've even than bode, of water nod a detainee wall mimeo in the Wale instead of knocking on the door. it's not
etheourased. I have Dever seem a detainee pec in his boale inside his cell. There's always spud there 24/7. That's an of nth
Met. That room will Dever eo nognardaeL When a detainee bee to use the bathroom, he win say mister, and he'll immediately be
tekjuoat use sever semi an Maass when a &mime has peel in his baste in the holding feeilitY• Ode
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Cees is unarmed and luso. the other one is armed sod watches My Icy is dot you sever much a detainee with a waapos on you when
you're in the detainee balding area. There's always a that a detainee acid stab your weapon. The bringhim to the beaky sod will stand a few feet hem the detainee. otherguy will sand back 15 to 20 feet from die detainee anti observe the process. The guy bathing the detainee never has to worry about getting shot by the detainee. Them's alwayssomebody in that mom? Wadon't allow thew to eecnottnieele with each other. Are They are blindfolded when they leave the
objective. There blindfolded tamed of hooded, since the FRACIO cause out. Sometimes there have been detainees who have been hbodfolded their cadet stay, except for when they see dm bathroom. dorioiliubiteetrogationa. when they go to sloth. We keep them
enduring the day because we've got people in and out during the for security remote. I've changed the policy
subseqeetely becume don't wain than to limb olds on ail the time. there have been some who have had that happen. It was sealer with thesand because they got plenty of lisle. They just weren't able to see. I'd say it's the noon sham they re
blindfolds! all aha dase. Nobody's blindfolded today because l've changed it Sir. I've thought about it and said to myself.
espethally toiding_soote of Me new Noy, when it mew dews. that I should eke the Idiodfolth off. The norm would be you'd use
them bliedfottled Sit. They're act htded today because yan' r• here. I established the policy that should hr blindEcnded.
The eareatistiee's policy that govern the operations of this desentioe discusses when they should he blindfolded Sir. At the arrival
of the deutinee... bet we didn't discuss the wholethift, it says... You toothed on it caller Sr, die ream we did tit
seleindly was because my cement is, what they do deckle to pan to escape. I wood to make sure these guys didn't havevaunt° see. so they could best mime of here. because cuter we only kept them for a short period of time. So-vie d keep them in
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S. STATEMENT lOuninueM cells dialog the deytitne and bring diem oat Sr intaroptken and take their klindItilth all• and wbon *LT do Ow bathroom
‘Ndialds cane ofd but for a pod pen of the day we pt the bliedftdds ea so toy wadthet be able to oleos. We Itave a we . We have to do a 41I beer We said k found. Whenever wainfor h hack with SFCAthillk or
His repott If there's int inearogadon. stranslator the detainee. There Is not aormally a guard In the 'room. The guard's outside okra the py presents a occur*•-•., risk. The name of dm translator associated with die benogation on to TIR lop. Our log is he canto in here. I have a pod4tiN I working relatioaship with the is a versant skid. estecially whoa dodos witb keels. They love emirroily. Toe got to smdersomd who 're about. We do not have records emir . if I've doom ons.
Ws to be on a en the intortheur,
cog some /spoke. You'll sit there U the win sit their, Cil althere. We'll sir. Oil uk you ate you doing. would you Moo some coffee% nth a Mk bit. End =their hoRy. You have to be sincere when oo Men. You Mn lo redly tridzaeodersnod why &mere bete; M first moonoe, is "Tell toe why you an hare'. andnotholly say 'I don't kame. objerdse off the bat le at find out Item guys are cook INN.that was skint DCo Mitre of the terrorist or whether du tersorist, nod you usually on lime it out beam of the of Omeptiso. the guy's going to ort to talk about something different. One of the eine who labially cine in, be had a MW advert askance to interrogatka amid. I said. 'Tell me sir. what is this". He said. 'I swear by God. I do am now'. o duce or fourdrys butbe expiable* to me where be ens at sod this weeded up outing out half of... and subsegually be lucidness of fore*Agana come trough his how 'Da remon dung abed m me was boom he had some con as his log, and I put some Iodiseea kis wounds. The soy MIN to cry and said. 'AnI would over have done this for me". That's cue of the small things do
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can be a insides pour for him. IMO; aloe is the best to do. Or you could say. for asaample. there was thisguy wk. oral hit sou and be had a °emptier in his house loaded with Al Jibe sniff. We thew he bad dopa These thew, we bad loads and
loads d evidence relating hint to terrorist activities sod I said. "Where did you get the computer?' tie said, 'My dead brother, my bother bought b, then he died, It's been in the boom my am and I were musing with it'. I said, 'Which son is that? Were youtalkiat o =ism on die ootopated Of comae not. I don't even knew bow to use die onovoisar. 'Well who does" I said. lie
Ob my seal". I said. ' we should p ask your son". 'Dm he takes a deep booth and says "No. I don't went
costa my son in aedvides !u
ser: told me everything be wooed to tell me. So b depends on who the person is. We've Iffyannesed af ythleilthla. and he's a total mister. That's the ddog. we've sat guys dawn Owe Owl you'll say
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re wad . and you cold ask anybody Sir, ask them how we do business down but and every guard that
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in. 'll say lent, we teed these guys better than so get treated half of the time." So dame's eviction =ached to the eut. glEY you feel people. Theo we'd get some that say "I've sot loan anything' sad we'veet actresses to believe they've done
nYtietso we let thin p. There's a0- reason to clog up the system.' When they get to Abu Wth they'll stay for three or tat meths that mama. How could you do that to pecgle? That's what I'll MU Stem guys, you treat them with sinthalby. Youdaft Irmo if that guy did h. This has happened piny of times when eardoesn't less Nand will mg Obi out to the Coalidon and be son rolls:4110 Sr whatever realm Thai's no lemon to put new libulkts ea the meet, so that's our policy. Wemake sure we scam them up first so we know who they are and we release them. We amoniteosese them. If there clothes are ripped, or they Mn new show, I personally will go bay thou now man-dreues. We give them sours bucks to get on the taxi nand. We apologize. we're sincere. We'd say, Sir I'm sorry this hammed. sonveoe's implicated you in a atom and we had to investigate it and a's out obligation to do so sod we're sorry for the incooveniesce. What can we do to help your rut not the only imarropto boo, and obey all would do the same thing. We've tidy had one as two guys that were redly uncooperadve. Onepy wanted to pve a bath, and be screamed lib a Kuwaiti girl, sod flopping around. So we'll grab him and take control of bins so be won't IOW! td1._ They'll be guys in their Dell banging their bead up spina the wall. Temp iia there and try to rennin him.
If he's up led down. we'll mania his hands behind his back. Or if they look like they re going to be damp:coos, we'll put their hands bnd deer hack. and we'd roofer them to Mu Glob. Let than tab care oft They have better !icicles to bode It. They'd talk; you Just gat to keep tad* as them. You just get te keep asking quesnons. The most aggressive pore and nsenniPiter will thise got is theft, yell at thew bang the table, scream and yell at them. get up in their face.That the most aggrawave to
yos on get toe here. Everybody 1030W1 that, briefed up on tat Nobok's statbun 'mete. So
that', whet we do. If they're not pin/ to talk to ran, therm not going to talk to you if you do anything han that. The best way, the only way, to get {average on Moe guys is to talk to them about their fam iha You'vegot to convince them they won't Ma their family for a them lag time. If they don't want to alit to you and if they don't Sir, we just send thea on up. You'll sitdown to talc to them and they'll squat on then bees. As they to be more coostative, you ma them in a Oak They start tobecame a title mom cooperative and you give diem some fr . SOIOCtilOOS they mart oft caftans bees. k depends on bow they
whether they'te cooperative. se what *Wm Undyed with. You wage to start off riaht away and say. Hey, v.e' re in cowlMari.
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thee. This is the desk we've pt two ways we cm go. Yost on nay down there sad talk to me like tic or you on talk honestly and sit Ike a man. and sit at the table together. It's your choke; it's always your choice." Then they'd say. "I'd du to sit like a
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devisee. be didn't hebtu beaten or Pwitad heck. He said acatebody prehim the boot Wade his futility. He didn't have any
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than amp that not dry nal quick. So whet we do Is like a`Navy shower*. We net them wet, we letdown, we hoes than olf. The waters beta MIR out there. The maul detainee sits dowa in the chair. It
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