Sworn statement by a Major, who discusses detainee operations. States, "ICDC [Iraqi Civilian Defense Corps] interview techniques were a little rougher than ours and there was a guy that got slapped, so the commander decided not to leave ICDC alone with detainees." With regard to use of dogs, states, "I would never let a dog near ... a detainee, but ... a dog barking 50 feet away ... personally I don't see a problem with it." In relation to minimum meals, states, "Water, three bottles a day, as far as food, something to keep them alive." When talking about securing a detainee by a handcuff chained to the floor: "Considering the people we're dealing with, and that I'm just holding them for a short period of time, I don't have any problems with it. Looking back I think securing someone with a chain for 17 days is too long."
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1. LOCATION RPC, Baghdad, Iraq 2. OATS NYTYmMOCH 3. TIME 2004/0650 17001. 4. RLE NUMBER
5. LAST NAME. FIRST NAME, MIDDLE NAMEB. SSN 7. GRADEISTATUS
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name is Major At one time at the we held a detainee for about six or se and the MINftt captured him trans rted hint to
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2nd BCT DIP. That was at the beginning of March. It was shut down their battalion BIB and moved out of thee.IIIIIIIIIIIIcomplex. I have two other and they ha never held detainees at their !cicadae for any time. Any detainees Sat they ca c arc turned over to the Coalition battalion y work with. T process detainees through either IAD or ICAV system. 11111111111111, arell111.611111111.1111- They work with the 36th ICRC Battalion, and when they have detained personnel, for the most part those detainees were turned over to 1-5 CAV.
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ours there was a guy that got slapped, so the ROI commander made a decision not to leave ICDC alone whit detainees. For the rest of the time we had detainees, they weren't left alone with the ICDC. IIIIMMINIMIIhave done the detention paperwork with the Coalition battalion the worked with Before the Coalition Willi took control of the detainee on the objective and tumid thdriathe start. 11 in iheallIMMIliftentround , replacingMINN* The 2-3 FA Wall still a arrived. 2-3 FA had a detention facility right there. They would capture a guy on the objective. bring to the Ma . and in process him into the Battalion DIP. when VIM was Olovthsaut of that location, they closed down the DIF. tried to nun their detainees into the toff of the IAD, and the 4.S-3 said no. They said they were net going to take III detaiaas because it se ed s were just dri • and dropping off, and the 1BCT would end up having to do . When -.-sl , '.1' . 10-1. , ., -• ,- • -
they would fill out the form, and from there they would run them down to DIF. At hours I would expect alto turn over detainees to either 1BCT or a DIF.1
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To keep a detainee longer than 72 hours, the would get approval ver y or I would send a down a report once I got to the LTC. We did have some detainees that stayed longer than 72 hours. At 554's location, the Ion 's ever stn ed was
lin11111•11111111111l who was there for 17 days. was at
April. and the conditions in Adamiya around the pretty dangerous. I actually didn't see those_g_frcit___
n for three weeks. They holed up in their house and only operated with the unit right next to them. I knew tha lt was there for 17 days. I knew that they requested a 14 day hold on him and I believe it was approved through the process. I had five teams oft there getting at, I've had three guys in my company wounded and sent home. We've had guys in the Battalion. At the be ''Ming of April, got killed. Two of my soldiers, they're working for C Company now, were in the hosie ial os. the OSH at tut time. It's reasonable for me to have lost visibility of the detainee for those three days but there is no excuse :; I.'
during this time period initiated a point to include in the SITUP every detainee •'tat you have and how long II., had been there. As far as I know the IIIIIIISOnly had a to detainees. Of course they had intern?tem with them when that went
lb down there to see the detainees, but no one other rsonnel have bean down there by thlemselves with detainees \s 1,:t as the team has told me they've never used their dog in interrogations. Certainly I would never let a dog near. or have ph:. 4: a! contact with a detainee, but to be perfectly honest, a dog barking 50 feet away, if that's going to convince an Iraqi to give ..I.: another one of his IED ma•g friends, than personally I don't see a problem with it. I can see that there could be c ircums:.i.L.:!. where I wouldn't have a problem with having the dog in the same room with a detainee. I don't have a policy on what detainees are to be fed and how of they are to be given water. The acceptable minimum sta nthd would certainly be water, three bottles a day, as far as food, something to keep them alive. I'm aware of wha was fed and I don't think it was particularly adequate. I should have been checking on those guys to make sure they were doing what I thought was the right thing. The detainees were secured there by handcuffs that were cuffed in front of them, they were seated on the floor, and there was a handcuff locked to a chain which was bolted to the floor. I consider that a suitahiemetttoo u .
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9. STATEMENT Kant/Rued) cuffed in km of them, they were seated on the floor. and there was a handcuff locked to a chain which was bolted to the floor. I =wider that a suitable method to secure a detainee. By the standards of civilized society its ptobsbly not acceptable, but
considering the people we're dealing with, and that I'm just ' them for a shots ' of time. I don't have any problems YA\
with it. Looking back I think 17 days of securing someone with a c is too Long. Their intent was tactical intetroSation, for
holding that detainee.
/ 41. I lasow there are allegations of abuse against the team from Wm.knit that be mid he was — around and he made an allegation that someone was trying to stick a water bottle up his rectum.remember our LNO at the Mace Headquarters contacted me and said that then had been allegations of abuse Z im
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but be said the medics the guy and no physical axed corroborated those claims. A few days later COLcalked ne over when I was at the eadquarters and basically repeated the same thing. Just about everyone roe of my•1111111has tepOrted that bad guys know It takes to get out of jail especially after Abu Ghraib. There's a lawyer reported on theoutskirts Adamiya between Sadr City, coaching these bad guys on how to get out. Additionally ane of the interpreters overhearddetainees talking saying, 'all you got to do is keep your mouth shut, go through the syatem, they'll lose your paperwotit, if they
hold you longer then just claim abuse and they'll let you out.' In tams of the SITREPS, I'm =sure when COLlhome directed . that all detainees be hued on the SITUP. A lot of our message traffic is done on via SAT which is like an e-mail system. so therecoWd have been (Emissions about holdng detainees during that period, but it's not recorded.
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