FBI Memo re: Interview of Detainee at Guantanamo Bay

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FBI interview of a Guantanamo Bay detainee who appears to have a great deal of experience with the Jihadist movement since 1989 and has come in to contact with many of the major figures and events in Islam and the Middle East that have defined the 10-12 years prior to the attacks on September 11, 2001. The detainee stated he was an Imam at a Mosque in Saudi Arabia frequented by foreigners many years earlier, in the 1980's. He stated that while in Saudi Arabia he met a Jordanian male while working at a bakery. This Jordanian man told the Imam that he was interested in traveling to the U.S. to meet a woman to obtain U.S. citizenship. The detainee then stated that stated that he was arrested and incarcerated in Saudi Arabia after being associated with an armed robbery. He detailed his traveling to Pakistan and Afghanistan at the start of the Soviet occupation in 1986 when he was 16 years-old and training at Taliban and Mujaheddin camps. He also details his traveling to Bosnia and other places for Jihad. The interview does not mention conditions or treatment while in U.S. custody or while at Guantanamo.

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Non-legal Memo
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Wednesday, May 22, 2002
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Monday, January 1, 2007
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Fb-3134 (Rev. '10-645)
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stated he was animamat_the

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57C -4 -Masque in -' audi Arabia,• This mosque was'frequented.
b7D_- 1 ' foreigners ini --Saudi Arabia for ethployment..1 lwas qualified
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has"had no formal religious-training. - . •
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. I 1met' 1 I . while

a Jordanian male named-[
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meeting a woman to et

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'b71) -1 citizenship .: 1 It-old his' .brother had
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arranged -a meeting hetwten . and [
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working in-Saudi Arabia when met hith.

•' the telephone number' of his•friend_.1 56 -4,5,6 lana named. b7C -9,5,6 who worked at he Islamic Center:in, b7D -1 thOught heeded an
imam,

b7F -1 ave gen Willing to elp With his trip. 1. Called1 I and-arranged ta travel to the U.S. an teach at the, [Islamic Center. . •

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stated that:he. was arrested and intarcerated
di Arabia after being: associated with an 'armed robbery.
was friendsa than n4Medi

. with who -owned
a_perfuthe'st -we inl 1 1Where . twas, Ere erl customer.
In - went to

In addition, outl. . dinner with on a. regular
ihas•s.1 land .two of his friends named AND

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. I. were involved in an armed robbery an arrested by
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. the Saudi Arabianpolicel j 1 was also arrested because he ..
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with the robbery,. but, was coerced by torture to admit he was
J_TiVolved•by the Saudi Arabian olice.. I 'spent two.years

incarcerated'in a prison. in One year, after. he-was

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released.,--he got•married...


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1994,In worked for

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'passport issues for foreign workers and . representedthe,company-in
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advised that he took a•trit to Afghanistan -in
1989i when e was sixteen years old. A the time, the-Saudi
Arabian government was offering-a 75%:discount on airplane tickets.

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to Pakistan, for the purpose of traveling to Afghanistan. Plights­left. twice a week, and were always'booked.

traveled from-Islamabad to.•Peshawar, Pakistan

-and stayed in •an Arab guest house called, Seit'Al-Ansar. . The
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-leader of this .house watt' an ek-Iqujahid from Saudi Arabia.

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While he -was. at. the house, he. was inNrmed•there wer --two military .

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'OF -1 camps :for training -in-AfghaniStan: The Al-Siddeek camp was for -

.short term training, usually -limited to about two::weeks. _ The Al--Farouk camp wavfor lOnger training. lwaS on a breakjfroM school, -sa.hedecided'taattend the -shorter:Al-Siddeek•oamp
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1 The Al-Siddeek camp waS:located near khowst, Afghanistan. IreCeived training on the KALASHNTIKOV and physical •
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b7C -4, 5 exercise . ' He Claimed it. •was Very' colid and the camp' s -well was • ,
b7D -1 . frozen. [ 'stated he was obese. 'at . the time 'and was unable',
b7F -1 to'complete the training„He-attentled three days Of training

• before .requesting to-be sent'home. His •trainer Was'
from• Mec•ay Sandi Arabia •

traveled to Bosnia -in. 1595. : the time, :he
was renting at apartment• with his wife •-nd struggling financ•ally •
nestated Sheik' -Saudi Arabia"offered

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to pay his-rent and provided hiM-with 7000 to 10,,000.Saudi-Riyals

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if. .he.would agree to journey to Bosnia. to fight. He left.$audi:.
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' Arabia With'anotherman-named 1
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claiMed ,his motivation for traveling to. Bosnia was• money and the

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poOsibility of Meeting a,14Oman, I was married at the time,
but.indicated the marriage waS . not working:.

travel ed froml 'Saudi Arabia toZsgreb,

. :proatia by p ane on a CroW.an Visa. Fl-oth.zagrejo the two traveled
by bus to Split, Croatia_ I 'had an address in Split front­his cousin who -worked for AL HAI!A•AL OLYAALIJAMI' AI TABAROAT.WA
LIMOSADAT, 'MUSLIME ALBOSNIA ALRIYADH. -Thetranslation for this

b6 -4,5 - 'name means .•The'High. Committee to Collect DonatiOns for the.Muslims. b7C -4,5 in Bosnia, Riyadh, .Saudi.Arabia..-This organization was Chaired by
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'Saudi Prince SALIMAN-grg-A5DEL Azrz, The two stayed -at—a-hotel—en-- ------- -

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-the beach it-Split for tworot.three -da s. - They visited the offices '

,of the High Committee in Spilt: 'mentioned the.Haramayn
organization was also involved In osnia w ile he Was there. - The •
Haramayn-or5anization supplied food, medical supplies, -and- money to
the Arab houses' in Bosnia :He had no 1:mowledge of, any military •:.
support provided by Haramayn, :Haramayft was chaired by Sheik-

land SheiN tor -Haramayn. was

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headquartered in Riyadh; 'Saudi Axabia. stated • this was -b7C -4

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all common knowledge in-Saudi Arabia,

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. -. . • . . • . They' boarded ibus ..in Split and traveled t4 tenica, Bosnia, -They with 1a -
groupgroUp pf Arabs fightingwith.the Bosnian Ar '. 'The. . Contact information. for this group -was rovided h • ''
group of Arabs were called AL-KATBEBIA: state t is group

. was. involved in military operations in Bosnia .wit -the Bosnian. The -
Army. Theytraveled . tO AL-KATEEBVs headquarters' in Zenica and .
stayed for a few dayS.:,1 .. 'did not like the AL-KATtEPA, groUp , .

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because of the:striCt disciple and harsh schedule•: 1

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-stated he wasforcea to up every morning before the .sunrise

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ra pr and was not allowed to returnta Sleep.- He_pleadea „iithr--1

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to go to a different group in Bosnia called 'Al-Zuhair. Al-
Zuhair 'wasalSo ih:VolvedAnmilitary operations With,the'tosnia --
Army.but•was not•as strict with disciple:: Al-Zuhai hadr -Arab -
houses. in.Trivnik, Tulsa; -and.anothe•:unidentified city.

-stated the Arahsat.the hbuses would let picked up .illy .thO.Bonian-


Army, issued weaponi, and taken to fight. .There were ny weapons
present at any of .the hquSes. 1 . I•eard AL-XATEEBA aftd Al-


Zubaix Were -receiving weapons through the Croatian•mafia from•Iran..
went to the Travnik Arab hoUse where he spent the
remalnderofhLie time in tosnia: . .

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Whilel lwaS at the Travnik house he served as 'the

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1D7C -4 . disoovered'.histalent, they alloWedhim -to stay'at the.hduse and
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military operations in Bosnia.

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•. . While! lwas in Aosnia, he learned his wife in
Saudi Arabia was pregnant,' so he was.forCed tbretur

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with the leader of the house in Travnik name

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and waS•given pe :return -to Saudi.

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b7F -1 trave ed to -Saudi with a •Saudi trom'Jeddah. who had .spent four•months'fight/ng in Dania.• 'thought' Iwas
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-_____a_good_traveling._partner:hecause he was . not a •devout Muslim:and. - • enjoyed having 'a good .tirEICTirht -aAriing-.7---
I returned to Saudi Arabia and worked atj
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Contractors as a liaiSon.between the Saudi

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government 'And foreign workers in.Saudi. Heiworked-for the co

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-for approximately ei ht months to one year. While working at

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iContractors decided•to take•A trip to Mecoa and
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visited lin Je aon is way home from Mecca. • '-

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Also .during this time,' kas. introduced to.two individuals . from e United Arab Emirates by 'his. friencil . s the owner.of.a -perfume shop in[ ] He introdUced _tai I . 4 dire-ct:descendant.of th.9 -b6 -4,5,6 t Mohammed; and-an .unidentified man of Indian descent. I
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b7C -4, 5, 6: .t000 Is phone number and contacted him'in 1996
b7D -1 1.12L=y4a trip td the United 'Atab Emirates. When he arrived at.
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b7 F -1 s home it Abu .Dhabi ih the Emirates, he learned the•two:were.. planning a trip. to .Chechnyal-They.invited Ito go . . Chechnyat.o .fightWith.them. ,i_ Itobl Iheilad-t0' 'money- for. the:trip.: I . I -told him riot to' Worry and prOvided , • ... him.with 3, 000:to - 4 ,000. ,Saudi Riyals •iri addition: to travel • .' expenes :

-The group flew to Baku Azerbai an and-etayed ,atan.
unidentified.hotel in the city. called a -contact.at an
Arab safe-in an Unidentifie ocation,And they,werefdriyen to
-the'house. , When IarriVed at.the-house he met

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b7C -4, 5 spent the -next'two months at the safe-house.. During this times. •

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they went on walks, .rodethe -merrygo7rOund;-and .went Sightseeing.

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Thesafe houSe .waS:,221.2strea'for Arabs. travelingrta.Chechtya

.t.-cifight, but when was there the route waSclbsed and nip one was'able: to.get:into Chechnya. •. After ,two morithsd land r were-bored and returned. home. :.
unidentified -amount ot .time in_Saudi•Arabiii
decided -tb•visit the parents-aq
a friend who lied in Bosnia. They traveled
to Bahrain and talked to s:brot4er..I The three

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wEi l e - the •- group . was waiting. 3.-n—Ki-.19-a-i.t.---fzir-a—fl-ig-htTi--- the-- -- --
incident . at•the . Khobar.Towers in Saudi Arabia •oCcurred and-the: •
b6 -4, 5 group was detained. by Kuwaiti.intelligence for ten days.. .Following
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•up. returned to Bahrain and and went to

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,. Qatar -for two da s.until things _returned to norma . Wh e- in: •

Qatar, and 'had a disagreement ovet.money'and
eparte or an unidentified location. . . Idecidd.t0.

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return'td-Saudi.Arabia, so-he -flew to Bahrain- and. called his parents to pickilim up. -'b6 b70 -
On hiS way from Bahrain to Saudi Arabia; I I was b7D -arrested by Saudi Intelligence.undet'suspicion stemming from the b7F Khobar :rowers Ilionibing and his foreign travel. He was sent to prison in Dammam where he was beaten for two weeks .prior to his' interrogation. He was detained by the Saudi gbvernment for
b6 -4 approximately three months and released.: His passport was revoked
b7C -4 for one and-: a'. half. years. He returned' home and wag hired as an
b7D -1 Imam in a local mosque. During this time he.was also employed by
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.• Two 'weeks after his passport'wasreturned,.he was again ., detained .by the Saudi government. 1.1e was taken to priSon in Jeddah b6 -4 and interrogated four• times over the next month -and a.--half . He was b7C -4 released and returned-tol 1 but his passport was revoked forb7D -1
five years. I Yclaimed to' be' unaware Of the reasons behind'
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his apprehension -and.passpOrt. revocation:
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In 1998 the Bahtain'goVernment announced it was reissuing
Bahrainipassports to Members of the ttibe.in Saudi. , . b6 -4,5 'Arabia. Is father Was originally-from Bahrain and as a b7C -4,5 result. Was able to- receive a Bahraini_PaSSport.. b7D -1 eca e he Could no. longer:live in Saudi,Arabia because of .•.: b 7 F -1 e persecution of'the government,' He planned on-going to livein-:
Kuwait or-the 'United -Arab Emirates,- nut-metl

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decided to travel to the•U.S. • ,

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traveled to Bahrain -and visited the. U.S. .embassy an received a'fiveyear tourism visa_ .s'father:-gave him 19,000 Saudi Ri als for his trip to the, U.S. He flew from-• . BihraitHto Istanbul to to . up at .
and wa..s -picked. b6 -9, 5 the airport. b took. him to the .Islamic . -b7C -4, 5 .center in moved to the Islamic . . . b7D -1 center at in la. - He was.. there b7F -1 forapproximately two months before returning to -Saudf.:Aribia to
visit his s i-c— .-----2kfr--ght-77idiath-s-dna-S-attd-j-r-krab 4-,r1
-k raihi--et-eci­[returned to the .U.S. ..He 'spent about ten days In West , (before he was transferred to the Islamic center on ther I IN. • He spent
approximately six and a half months in I. I tut, also made .
side trips to Michigan and Buffalo, NY. He returned to:Saudi - , ..
Arabia :for two or three months,:then returned to.Buffalo.•NY until
three.weeks after the Trade Center.disaster. 'He-flew to Bahrain

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•for two days, then to• Iran where he ,met for the• mosque tour of , Afghanistan.
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