FBI Memo re: Interview of Detainee at Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay

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1 1 CSN ;an Afghan.bale, was
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Bay.NaVal Statidn,,Guantanamo'ta­b7C -le 3, 4 Also resent­
during the 'interview was. I\TCTS.Spedial Agent

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mistreated by US forces while'in
detention in Baaram and durincr-his transit to Camp-Delta- I

I-'complained of ­
b6 -4 ted td . marks on his wrists that hedlaimed'Wereicausedb the
b7C -4 . shackles. AdditionallVi claimed that he was upset by •havinti
b7D -1 to weak a hood. while:in triniit and• that guards did not respond to

b7F -1 - a pain in his ear. Puither:1----lalleged that.the ouards.beathim. While in transit T----linformed the translator of his ills and was .told that a doctor would see him later. •
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he is innocent Of. anToffenSe.•
came to his tK)use w i e:he was'having a meal with guests:. .US and
Afghan militarytarsonnel. entered'his•home and started-searching..
US-forces shoWedi. [a:pioture of his'brbther that-they had found

.1)6 -4 - in his holise and asked' Who:it. was• 1----1 admitted •that it was his • b7C -4 brother, and'further stated .that: tis brother was olitof town. .b7D -1 was told that weapons had been'found,in'his house, but
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-A4Oordingsto- US.foroes..

'cmintered -that they were actually found At his hrOther's house:
'Was extremely upset that he was detained infront of the •

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female members-family

of his family and stated. that he was innocent of-an
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-,-7-1 ipter illodified. his story regarding the weapons. and . .. adMitted that only ­
found at this -house: One .of .
these' weapons was a Kalashnikav ,and:the other was a British weapon
b6 -4 that. did not work.' During•this later recant ,r---istated that the
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.two. weapons were_used-for .bird hunting. I-

I furt er stated that_

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any additional weapons = may be the property of hisbkother and that-
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if there were, any.weapons;.thay had been _acquired from a Mujahideen.
eighttoten•yearsago that was aoquaihted with his brother.
Another-was that the'weapoes may belong a

theory. suggested by­iviliage'leader and ' re-iterated that his .brotherWould'khow the provenance of the..weapons. .-7-7-77----------7:------:------------- :-.-' - . . .
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Investigaticm.on • 7/19/03 Guantanamo . Bay, Cuba
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•On multiple occasions, lasked-that his accuser

AcCording-to I an enem promulgated an unsubttantiatecLrutor that ad weapons. •
•preeented:to him: - -of -his family had­
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b7c _4, 5, 6 However the basis for this allegation was an uinent that
brother -(plumetiol-had with (phOnetic)-,

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b7F -1 MEM and-had a..long-standing isagreement over money.;
Further.-was in the Afghan Arm :and used his relationship
with US forces to :convince the US that had' Weapons -at-hid.:
house. 1­
insisted that he had-been wrongly accused and
implicated with the weapons_

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described an added' dimension to the conflict -between. his

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• brother an.wenemies:of.hisfamily." .
and' 'According to MIN a member
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of one'tribewas killed, 80 sOmeone•from'the 'offending tribe killed -
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a member ofsr the.opposing:group.- This' occurred approicimately eight

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years ago and was a factor in the animosity held against'­
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family. 1 1--is the cause"

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. On Multiple - asked •for proof,that he had .-

occasions--...
-committed.Some-of n-werea -fighter,,he'

a opined that if he ­1 would have -r­
d then hiMself. !insisted that
hewas a simple farmer and that it was only the fdlse -s

alleaalon

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Of that had' drawn the -attention of the-US onto'­
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b7 . -1 suggested that his- brother would straighten out the situation,
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- who were also present at the meal. I­
'explained that his-brother
had traveled to speak with a district official named
about a road that was to built near IIs 'family Compound, -
-to ccrrobdrate an t at this .was•why. his brother was unavailable
:his story.
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111111 insisted that hd knew nothing of. the weapons- found.by US _forces . in. his familyls .tomPOUnd, Fu•ther011:10directed-US.forces . ' to interview thepeople of his village. . insisted that the
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_b6 -4 __people _of the village would,suppoi-this:dtory.and,00rroborate that b7C -4 he knew notingof-EH& weapons -M75.-wa-s just-a -simp±e-f.armer-.7-1-11---- ------b7D -1- stated that only "commanders have weapons, l4­
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- b7F -1 - and that he was a simple; unedUtated farmer- 1-'.claimed to be' unable to read or write.Pashtu. The only formal education he had was through religious-did adthit
ttaining-to knowing a. few-
' words.of'Darii but no Other. lanuages: : -

I I stated---that his family farmed a/plot-together and'greW

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- • vegetables, specifically onioneand.pomegranatea." 1 . 'stated that
b6 -4 his hands, were sMoothand. did not refledt.hard manual labor because.
b7D -1 the "dOctors gave him something to-soften'them."—fain hOw •

his hands:could heal from the .rigors of farm wOrk, ­
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that,l'"Mrhands:jlist got' better" and . "If you cut me it will heal•in , - four months, '.­
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Slamilyjiad maintained.thefarm'since . moving to.
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.14llage'from Jalalabad_approximately four . years ago. Only brother' 'remained. iii-Jalalabad..1 Idescribed-that pomegranates were planted .in-the fall, but later changed this to
b6 -4, 6 • planting in•the spring and harvest in' the fall.' Ir[hyLaldea -1pc -4,6-of bow large this year's croP.of•pobegranates would be.
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,Claimed that his family harvested 50.man (phonetic) iof.•
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prOmegranates lfs family.also has.goats•and cows. ] Is.
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-family-also grows .onions lii one section and grain in another _ seCtion of land. ' Theentire• family works the land and all.of'the faMily MemberS live within'a compound tOgether, but in -separate
.houses: The individual.families eat.py themselves,•but:ahare.:a
:guesthouse for guests, Further,'-.

[stated that two •of hie'a but that ••the others:are_close. brothers -do not get along, ­.-.
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returned to the theme that certain elements in the.­
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village were'happy to'see him arrested by .US forces -and eaid; "My-
enemies are ve h: py I was captured-. They stab people in the .:-•

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1,7c -4,5 back. " . Again, amended 'this statement later. by' saying that '.he
b7D -1 • didn't-persona 1y have enemies, but that his brother did-due to.the . .

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. b7F -1 . altercationbetween his brother and I I—I explained • that • ' his brother had a fight approximately.te .days prior to his.capture•' by .1.1S forces and 'implied that this Was somehow "linked to th&bad : blood betweem;his hrdther Arid(­
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the compound had. been new, Ile would.be ilty, b7 F -1 However, the weapons really belonged to his•-brother:­
b7E1 -1rweapons found'in - ­
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______not,haye_returnedthe weapons to anyone because•once ey• were.' -
given a weapcii, they were responsibrd—to7the comMandWZ--

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b6 -4 I 'denied being a 'memberlof the Taliban -or Al Oaeda.

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Additionally, I had. heard of the HIG, but heard it for the first •

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time approximately four monthsago and did not knoW anything .about
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istated that the Taliban did not
bring peace. Only since the US•arriVal has Afghanistan been -
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•reiterated that the 1:vaapon's had been provided eight -to­ten year ago. Further, , claimed that he told US forges where to find five boxes of ammunition. 0's family brOught the ' • ammunition from ..Talalahad when they moved to the farm four year
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h7C -4 ago., Once again,.­b7D -1 • but •belonged to his brother. I Istated.that there were no b7F -1 rocket-propelled grenades found on .the premiSes.. .Further, the . I
.recbillesS, rifle -found by• US• forces' did not work and was rusted. opined that it is probably ,ilocier• a hundred years old, " but
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later-madi•fied• this by., saying that it Was "from .his !' grandfather ' s time .•" I, I maintained that he knew. nothing of 'any additional weaponS that may have been found on his compound: . . . .
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