An FBI agent discusses a detainee interview conducted on 08/05/2005 that became violent. The agent details an exchange between the detainee and interrogator(s). The agent states that the detainee initially refused to leave his cell for an interview, but was eventually convinced to participate in the interview and entered the interview room. Thereafter the detainee became belligerent and began to spit, curse and kicked out a table in front of him. The detainee then stood and attacked interviewer and fought with others in the room. The confrontation continued with the detainee attempting to bite the MPs until he was eventually subdued and the situation was brought under control by the guards. The FBI agent details his own perception of the events, and his attempts to calm the matter down. The letter is heavy on detail. In another sworn statement on this matter ISN# 00174 was un-redacted, and it is from this that we know the detainee is Hisham Bin Ali Bin Amor Sliti.
On 9 Aug 05. I was interviewed in regards to an incident that occurred on 5 Aug 05. 1 was told by the interrogator that I was a witness but then advised me of my rights. I thought this was odd seeing how I was a witness. The interrogator explained to me that there were concerns during the incident on 5 Aug 05 and a tape of the incident was being sent to Washington. I answered the questions of the incident I observed but did not want to speculate on actions or what an agent might have felt or his motive for action. Each agent perceives threats in different ways depending on the experience of the agent. I perceived a sufficient threat that I felt it necessary to stay between the detainee and the interpreter throughout this incident. The interpreter told me thank-you after the incident because of how close he perceived the detainee got to him. This incident started as an interview with_)and interpreted...NM on 5 Aug 05. 11¦1¦11=111¦111¦¦=111The
interview was in Camin the downstairs interview room. The detainee for the interview w.,s ISN IllhAfter arriving at camillSlillrefused to leave his cell for the interview,_lked to the guard force about removing isitiofor the interview The guard force assembled their team but did not have to remove the detainee by EtInterpreters went to the cell to talk with ISNIKand the detainee representative convinced him to go to the interview and tell the interrogators that he did not want to talk. When our interview team arrived at the interview room ISN _vas talking with a detainee in the shower across the hall. As we walked through the door and were sitting down ISN'ld the interpreter to tell them (referring to agents) he would not talk to the dogs (again referring to agents).01111.111111114ied to get the interpreter to calm ISN
What we only wanted to ask a few questions. Normally we would be introducing ourselves to the detainee but he was so agitated that he did not give agents a chance. The interpreter told ISNathat this brother (referring togIMIII1Nanted to ask some questions. ISNalisaid, "don't say brother he is a dog" and he said, "fuck his mother". ISN.ipoke back through the interpreter saying he wasn't talking to the agents.1111
1111111interrupted the translation from the interpreter saying to ISN What he was already tallcing to us. ISN iiliooked a(Milliand in English told him to shut up. ININ.1told ISNIMIChat he knew ISNpoke English. ISNicked the .. wicker table forward_at th.e interPreter an_ opped the table with his foot.
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grabbed the table and moved it to the wall beside the door so it could not be kicked anymore. ISTillaid something like shut u you basta and stood up and moved forward with his left side towar _ tool up and told ISIklMi to sit down. An exchange of shut ups and sit downs were exchanged between the detainee an. inted at the detainee and told him to sit down. I was concerned that .the detainee had stood up and appeared to try- to take control of the interview. Thinking back now I found myself tunnel visioning on the actions of 'Si'l_iltnd the need to keep track of the interpreter. I remember the events in pieces and confuse the order some events occurred. The interrogator told m things that I did not recall. I cannot recall how many times ISIIIIpit a _ut it would have been at least four. During one of the spitting inciden _ oved out of
-... the way and ISI" lla empted to bite_fmger From my angle I didn't think ISNWiad bit I checked the interpreter and looked back seeing 111111.11olding the chair he was sitting in. I don't know why he picked it up. The interrogator asked me if the detainee grabbed the chair but I cannot remember. I saws IIIIrss the chair in the direction of ISNIIIII)ut I did not see it impact the detainee. This portion of the incident happened vary quickly and my perception of a threat grew to severe concern. There was a detainee standing up and anything could happen. The interrogator repeatedly asked me if I saw it hit the detainee in the face but I did not. I did not watch the path of the chair in the air as I had a threat. I don't know why_ threw the chair. I sa_ ach down for the refrigerator to his right. I was maintaining a position betwee _d the interpreter and adjusting .\2(tt as people changed positions. This seemed like a blur of movement as11.1111.1 shoved the refrigerator at the detainee. The interrogator asked me if he did this with his hands or feet and I believe it was with his hands. Again I don't know the intentfcM.
• ifthe refrigerator hit the detainee it would have been on the leg. I don't know illIllMII)ntended to hill.4 just put it between them. I believe I was moving to. stand up and get between the interpreter an.stosacl LIP and said
something like "cool it or calm down" putting my arm between
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the detainee an _recall ISNIllallingM_a bitch or bastard and_responding with punk bitch. This ended the direct exchanges between The detainee shifted his position to put his right side forward closer to the interview room door. I lifted the interpreters chair to block the spitting of
OM He grabbed the leg of the chair I was holding up but let go when he pulled and it didn't move. When ISN _go we moved a few steps in the opposite direction of ISNaway from the door. My intent on raising the chair was to deflect any spit from ISN.1 used the chair as a shield and never used it as a weapon. I am not sure lithe detainee tripped or lunged toward the door where he ended up on the table I had moved earlier. He was speaking in Arabic and the interpr ter said he was saying that he was being beaten. No one in the room knocked IS_own and he was not pushed to end up on the table. As I looked at IS*did not observe any injuries. The interview group stayed away f m ISt_is the MP's made their way into the room. I did not obsery_unch, kick, and poke or physically touch ISI_I observed IS NI.it and attempt to bite The guards took IS_the ground using what appeared to me to be minimum force. It did appear from my angle that when ISI_bras taken to the groundth t his head rubbed against the wall. J. did not obs anyone on the MP team strike IS _e left the interview room could have his finger looked at. While in an office with a monitor on the interview room I observed the detainee attempting to bite the MP's. The view m the monitor was the first time I noticed an injury on the detainees face _ his finger looked at by medical authorities as he indicated that ISN _teeth had made contact with his finger that had previously been cut. While ISIL _as still in the interview room with the MP's the detainee in the shower broke the shower so e water was running everywhere. I never observed any eye gouging of IS_hat as been alleged. There were multiple exchanges of profanity between the detainee an _ am not sure what perspective of the camera gave to the incident but my perspective was focused
on the detainee s. movements and actions while .moving sand. keeping the. interpreter behind me. The room we wer 'n became. lot smaller based on the aggression I perceived and the reactions of _Fear, adrenaline, and stress washed me as we left =AI. In. eighteca.years.nf. law_ enforeement .1.11amg.ne.m...oncnontered.A
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to advise him of the incident.
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