Fay Report Annex: Statement of Sergeant First Class, Interrogator; B Company; 519th Military Intelligence Battalion; 205th Military Intelligence Brigade re: Detainee Interrogations at Abu Ghraib Prison

This Sergeant First Class was an interrogator at Abu Ghraib prison from July 2003 until October 2003. The SFC stated "I did not witness or hear about any of the following Physical abuse of detainees, unauthorized picture taken of detainees or the unauthorized use of guard dogs. I was kicked out of Abu Ghraib on 25 Oct 2003. I was given 48 hours to leave Abu Ghraib by COL PAPPAS, [who] strongly disliked me because I stood up for my soldiers and raised concerns when I felt they were getting mistreated (getting told to conduct short notice, middle of the night interrogations when it was not in the interrogation plan)."

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Saturday, May 29, 2004
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7 NAME, MID
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B/CO. 519TH MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BATTALION, FORT BRAGG. NC
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WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
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hmaster, 2.5 weeks at Objective Dogwood and 40 days at
I arrived in Iraq on 11 Mar 03. I spent 2-3 days at Ob' • ed a report thin normal MI channels (205th) and LTC
Cropper. On 12 May 03, during my time at roppe

CHEW stating the living conditions for the detainees were not up to standard as the facility was too crowded. many ofthe
I served as the
held too long. 1 arrived at AG on 25 Jul 03, where we begandetainees should not have been arrested and the detainees were
Interrogation NCOIC and then the ISO of the first MI personnel on site. On 27 Jul 03. after setting up the facility,
working interrogators on site. To the best of my knowledge there
operations. During ibis period, there were approximately 14

of Engagement (IROS) document hut all interrogations were conducted in compliance with
was not a formal Interrogation

.Rules i rrogation school at Fort Huachuca, AZ. I did try to get a formal
FM 34-52 and the established trainin norms of the ASdraft co to mSheadquarters, but did not get any

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was excited because the Spublished wiS
response. Upon my arrival to A , my superviso Overall, l is speeleI
mission was supposed to last for three weeks and involve trying to obtain information on the Saddam Fadeyeen. Th
status should have meant that there would be specific Source Directed Requirements (SDR's) and specific things we would be

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Interrogations. These never came. Around this time, there was a discussion concerning the central
looking for during our

' airs into a )(Ant lnterro anal and Debriefing Center (.T1DC). Personnel in this discussion included MG MILLER,
During this discussion I addressed my concerns over having the JIDC at AG. given
at the AG. There
six weeks ail almy arriv . the thS
re chamber at the facility. Approximately interroga 325tiesS
stigma of the interrogationti activi
takIntg
support
was a shift in leaderthi Sluded COL Pappas being In charge ofl 519th MI On ing dubS
becoming the Deputy under COL PAPPASS control. As thecharge of the JIDC.Schecking to ensure quality t ion
c interrogation NCOIC I did extensive on-sil ISG
company for JIDC.S1SG e 1S03 .SI fully transicd to
SI asSP
requirements increased, I shifted to a more and I addressed art allegation Sup
became the i tc r ator NCOIC. • On 20 SepS an.

97•, Al519th MI Bo, deviated from acceptable Interrogation practices when he allegedly ti S
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guards thaS M.? observers described as 'a little too rough.* There were also alleged SdcSthrew hint into a truck in what the
it the detainee in the back of the head. I quitioned all my NCO's who witnessed the incident includin
All four witnesses said the incident did not occur but a
was yelling at the detainee during this time. I examined the detainee and found nothing it/indicate
involved agreedSnt.

the allegations. also had a medic and a LT on duty eXaMillt the detainee and execute a sworn stateme All witnesses
ternents which ere given to aimplielp for action. Nothing resulted from the inciden t. In late Sep 0
s‘Sonducted an unauthorized nighttime interrogation of a female detainee. 1 was notified by
three days a ter the incident took place. All three soldiers were given a Field Grade Article 15 by COL PAPPAS.
While at AG I did riot witness or hear about any of the following Physical abuse of detainees, unauthorized picture taken of

wa kicked out of AG on 25 Oct 03; Ise ofS
detainees, unauthorized video taken of detainees or the strongly disliked me because I
was given 48 hours to leave AG by COL PAPPASS (gScalm told to conduct short notice, middle

my soldiers and raised concerns when 1 felt they were getting nits S1SG and then moved toS- I:
up lot
of the night interrogations whe it was not in the Interrogation plan) I went to S110g3t011, 1 was told b
n
December where I workedSon a Tactical HUM1N'T learn (THT). Cone S was the best civilian inte pm. The
who was considered the best interrogator in country. ilia

leadership, especially senior NCO's. In my opinion, the mixture of
Iceillirnis mostr likely occurred because the JIDC lacked
units and the addition of civilian interrogators and linguists caused the personnel to get a Ink "sloppy" and was also a direct

the facility. 1 redeployed from Iraq on 22 Feb 04
contributor to the lack of discipline at
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