Fay Report Annex: Statement of Sergeant, A Company, 519th Military Intelligence Battalion, 525th Military Intelligence Brigade re: Conditions and Detainee Handling Abu Ghraib Prison

Sworn statement of a Sergeant who arrived to Abu Ghraib prison at the end of July 2003 to December 16, 2003 with the advanced party as an interrogator. The Sgt recalled the use of unmuzzled dogs, along with loud music. He recalled interrogating detainees up to 70 times. He stated "The dogs were not used during subsequent interrogations. I never witnessed or heard of Military Intelligence (MI) personnel requesting MPs to abuse detainees. I never witnessed or heard of MPs offering to abuse detainees on behalf of MI. I never witnessed or heard of unauthorized photograph taking at AG. We were specifically told that only during screening operations were photographs to be taken of the detainees.

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I. ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS ,
A Company, 519th Military Intelligence Battalion, 525th Military-huelliikence Brigade

. WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
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1 arrived at Abu Ghraib (AG) with the advanced party at the end of July 2003. 1 am an interrogator with A Company, 519th MI Bn, 525th MI BDE. My job for the first week or so was to set up tents and computersystems for operations and help establish living quarters. After the camp was set up • ifted to developing and maintaining a database which tracked all detaineeinterrogations performed by my unit. CW as very familiar with the database. "During my time at AG. 1 conducted
only 5 or 6 interrogations. Initially, the pr as up into two areas separated by a cinder-block wall. Military Police (MP)
managed the detainees on both sides, while our unit interrogated the detainees only in one side of the prison (where fewerdetainees were held). Operations and quarters for the Trojan Spirit operators were in tents up until the mortar attack of 20 Sep2003. after which operations moved into hardened structures and the Trojan spirit operators moved into our living quarters. TheJoint Interrogation and Debriefing Center (]IDC) was set up at the end of Sept or early Oct with the arrival of reserve or national
guard elements and the 205th Ml BDE. The interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROE) were very clear and well known by all
interrogators.
Prior to the 1ROE's approval by Combined loan Task Force 7, my unit instructed us to be extremely conservative
in interrogaho • hniques. '
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owledgement statements stating I had read and understood the IROE on at leasone occasion. • :and CW2 ad a large role in developing the IROE becausc.of their experience in
interrogation o ions in fghanis .
E for Iraq was very similar to the one used in Afghanistan. The I raq IROE wasmore detailed and specific than that used in Afghanistan. The IROE required that specific approval had to be obtained
for certain
more aggressive interrogation techniques. I de not remember specifically which techniques'
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Allinterrogation plans were submitted to the interrogation team leaders, and if necessary, to The
interrogation plat • 011 approaches requests were not maintained in the database. . (.4 II • •1 i a. a ....is of tin
519th MI13n left.
was in charge of the facility a si maireported directly to COL PAPPAS who arrived at AGin late Oct or car) . iter this change in command, and a visa by LTG SANCHEZ, there was much more pressure to
produce more reports.
There was also a tendency by officers to micromanage our interrogations and an increase in superfluouspaperWork. During Oct 2003, 1 did not notice any differences in the actions of ihe MPs towards detainees. If anything, the MPsmade things easier for the detainees, providing them with catered meals and opportunitiesioplay sports in the facility.. i never
witnessed nor heard of detamec abuse or mistreatment by MPs
I never witnessed or heard of the use or requested use of guard
dogs by MPs or interrogators. Guard dogs were used, untnuzzled, but leashed along with loud music, as an intimidation means
during detainee'mprocessing in Afghanistan. The dogs were not used during subsequent interrogations. I never witnessed or
heard of Military Intelligence (MI) persounel requesting tvilts to abuse detainees. 1 rover witnessed or heard of MPs offering to
abuse detainees on behalf of MI. I never witnessed or heard of unauthorized photographrtaking . place at AG.

We were
specifically told that only during screening operations were photographs to be taken of the detainees. We could not and did not
take photographs of detainees or their
tents or in the cell blocks where detainees were held. The difference in our operationin Afghanistan and our operation in Iraq was primarily the number of detainees. In Afghanistan, the low number of detaineesallowed us to interrogate each detainee at least two to three times and in some cases, up to 70.
Also, in Afghanistan, the low
number of detainees allowed the MPs to effectively control and prohibit communication between detainees. In Iraq, the large
number of detainees corubined with the few number of MPs affected their management. The MPs were unable to effectively
enlorce detainee segregation and silence. At AG. detainees were strip searched and medically screened upon entrance to the

tadlity. Outside tins, I never witnessed nor h
ninees being forced to disrobe. I never witnessed nor heard of detainees
wearing female undergarments. 1 was told tha
the contract interpreter, was a great interpreter. I was acquainted with
Siam and had several discussions with him but ne cr a et specific interrogauons or detainee operations. I left AG on 16

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