Unknown interviewee provided a sworn statement in which he/she recalled incidents that took place at AG. The interviewee reported only overhearing things, not actually observing anything. Recalled a woman, a National Guard who recounted numerous incidents, including killings and tortures that were covered up. Heard dogs were used to scare detainees. Also heard of detainees being handcuffed in contorted positions. One MP would bark like a dog, and they would all watch as the detainees would run from him because they thought there was a dog in the room. Overheard MPs were using detainees as practice dummies. Also reported hearing that the MP's made the detainees in isolation take their clothes off and wear women's underwear." Told that in the "isolation area," MPs said "they could do whatever they wanted to the detainees." Heard they ended yelling at the detainees and making them do physical training (PT.
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SWORN STATEMENT
CID149-83130
: 0003-04
File Number tional Facility, Baghdad, Iraq
: Baghdad Co4
Location
: 21 Jan 0
Date
Time
Statement of
Grade/Status
SSN
MI BN
: A 302
Org/Address
WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
the Nevada
A ound the middle to the en• of October I was talking to a female fron
he was
as very skinny, s
National Guard 4P unit that was stationed here- S was , on
old, I d't
he wand
ir, she
white, but very tanned, she had black and gray ha
remember her rank, but she was made the unit armorer during this time. She told
were'the ones who started setting
Me that they were the first unit here, and they
this place up. She was the oldest female among that unit. She was telling me
about writing these journals that talked about all of her experiences
hose here inals
journ
t
r cover
d
Iraq and the wrongdoings she witnesse (and theiitupd it. She was
she sai
, you name
she said there were killings, torture
referring to all of the things that had been done here. She told me that he
commander and the first sergeant hated her because she would voice opposittion to
them about the treatment of the people. She also told me that she mailed the
journals home (to a friend or to herself) before they could be found so that the
commander could not take them from her.
aid that the MP's told her that these two detainees
In late October
old •oy, so the MP's were handcuffing the detainees in
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had raped a 14-year kin it look like the two detainees were
contorted positions to each otn,e have
conto old me that the detainees may
ng sex with each other.
having
been naked at the time. She also said that the MP's made the detainees in
isolation take their clothes off and wear women's underwear.
bout
I was just discussing wit
i of October
i the el soners are getting
as far as t
hcw there wer! some bad things going on, his eye
eah and she told me about a deta:ne,t who had gotten bust and
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treated. Sne aid that she asked the MP low his eye got ed,
busted open.
down.
the MP replie that he fell
I was eating at the•ct
when I returned from leave in the middlecemb
nd three other people
hall at Camp Victory, when I overhear He was telling them about th'
talking about what's going on at Abu Gharib. ec t
things that the MP's were doing to the detainees. He said that he was inv
using the detainees as
join in on these things, so he did. The MP's were
practice dummies, like they would show each other how to knock someone out
uld watt
detainee wo
the detainee out. They did this while anothewl,,
calm him
knocking her MP' s would
other detainee would start to get scared, t
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and then hit him in some other way. He was also saying that the MP's were telling
him how to hit the detainees so that you didn't leave a mark, and telling him
what instruments to use so that they didn't leave marks.
After I came back from leave in the beginning of December I was talking t
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nd she was telling. me how the guards would bring the dogs down to e
ce s an use them to scare the detainees. She told me that she thought it was
funny because after they would take the dogs away, one MP would bark like a dog,
and they would all watch as the detainees would run from him because they thought
there was a dog in the room.
When the people from my unit came up here to fill slots and act as guards, they
were taken on a tour of the isolation area, when they were down there the MP's
would tell them that they could do whatever they wanted to the detainees. I was
told that all they enaed up doing is yelling at the detainees and make them do
PT. dallIPIP told me that he was worried about his so n• exposed to
t - .ind of -nd being en • to' •
were all
present for that re not on the guar force; they
are still Join• 15.
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A:
Q se ou know anybody specifically who was abusing the detainees?
A: Everything I know is what I've heart., all of these things take place down in
Isolation or in the booth.
Q . Do you w if any ody has taken any unauthorized photographs?
A: I know had photos of the facility, but not of the detainees. I'm
sure.they .
were for se timental value. Those photos were on the common drive, and
I was t d b my c in of command to delete the photos, so I did.
Did ever tell you .f she was involved with the abuse of the
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detainees. .
A . Just being there for the dog incident. She seemed really apathetic every time
I said anything about it. She thought , it was really funny to see the detainees
run back into their cells from the dogs.
Q: Co you have anything else you wish tc add to this statement?
A:
Every time I said something about how I was worried About the treatment of the
detainees, they would either say, thy are the enemy and if I was out there they
would kill me, so they didn't care :'m glad that something is finally being
done, it's kind of shameful what's peen going on.
Q.
Do you eve any ing e s wis tc ..d to this statement?
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tn1.5 January 21. 2004, at Bagnca:',, Iraq
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