Fay Report Annex: Statement of Sergeant, 302d Military Intelligence Battalion re: Possible Detainee Abuse at Abu Ghraib Prison

Unknown interviewee was assigned to AG to establish connectivity of computers.
Recalled an incident where an MI explained to an interrogator that a detainee was unavailable for interrogation because he had been interrogated for 10 hrs, stripped naked, was wet and cold and thrown into the back of a truck.
Recalled going to the Hard Site once and observing MPs yelling at detainees, making one guy say his name over and over again. Also heard two interrogators had gotten drunk and made a female detainee take off her shirt.
Also heard dogs were used to scare detainees. Also heard of detainees being handcuffed in contorted positions.
Additionally, the interviewee overheard "MPs were using detainees as practice dummies. They would hit the detainees as practice shots They would apply strikes to their necks. And knock them out. One detainee was so scared. The MPs held his head and told the detainee it would be all right and then they would do the same thing to the detainee. The detainee would plead for mercy. They all thought it was funny."

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Interview
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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SWORN:STATEMENT
For use of this form, see AR 190.45; As proponent agency is ODCSOPS
PRIVACY ACT STATEMENT
Titie 10 USC Section 301, hide 5 USC Section 2951; E.O. 9397 dated November 22, 1943 ISSN).
AUTHORITY: To provide commanders and law enforcement allele!: with means br solace information may be accurately identifieC:PRINCIPAL PURPOSE: Your social security number is used as an addittonaLanentate means of identification to facilitate Mine and retnevalROUTINE USES: DetiOSUlt of your social security number on volunlarYDISCLOSURE .
FILE NUMBER
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DARMSTADT, GERMANY
7. GRADE/STATUS

6. SSN
MIDDLE NAME
SGT
8 0 ATION
302d MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BATTALION, HEIDELBERG, GERMANY APO AE 09102
WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
I arrived o Abu Ghraib sometime in September. My MOS is 96B but my duty was to establish the SIPR and High side connectivity for the interrogators (System Administrator and Trojan SPIRIT Operator). When I first arrived there were only a couple of computers. This was a few days after the mortar attack that brought me there (to replace those wounded) , after which
.miry. We would
we started receiving a lot of computers. Our tasks were to set up the computers with th d me delete as
back up the database (on which were photos that were not used for the detainee files tha appointed local S-2). I never saw any photos of detainees other than those for the detainee folders. I was h ked to learn that everyone was operating out of the tents and they were getting hit with mortars all the time before I got there. After the big mortar attack where we lost some soldiers, we moved operations into the buildings. 1 did not receive any training when I arrived at Abu Ghraib (other than system administration from my experienced soldier). I did not get trained on the Interrogation Rules of Engagement. the Geneva Convention, what the dos and don't of the MPs were. The focus on the training was on the Tiger Teams at one point In November. Even after CID began their investigation the locus was still on the Tiger Teams. I did feel comfortable
that if 1 saw something 1 would report it. 1 never saw any detainee abuse, photos or videos
_or the use of d_or intern_ens. We were told not to take photos. I sat in on an interrogation once wi A/302nd MI. as brought to Abu Ghraib to interrogate a General When he arrived, he _s told by so_interrogators (don 1 know
o t a t e detainee was incapable of conducting an Interview because they had just interrogated him for 10 hours and they stripped him naked ot.h -we nd cold and put h
nd I conducted._truck. He was told he would see his son and that is the interrogation that_ as very calm and asked direct questions. The boy looked soareo. He was_o d the interrogator_boy shou • not be there because he was young and was scared of the
years o_c older men in the camp. 1 was told that the youngest age in the camp was 16 and therefore he belonged there. I went to the Hard Site one time because 1 was taken there to sec what it looked like. What I saw was MPs constantly yelling at detainees. They were making one guy say his name over and over and over again. If he lowered his voice, they would scream at him. heard that two interrogators Iron Fort Bragg had gotten drunk and went to the prison to take out a female prisoner and take the rt off.
1.P_lily saw it , reported the incident and CID began an investigation. The individuals were from the 82nd. (analysointerrogaior) told one that dogs were being used to scare detainees. She said that the detainee has a hood hat one of the MPs would hark like a dog to scare the detainee. The detainee got scared and ran into I cell. Ou at it was funny. This incident happened in November or December. She told me in December. Iso told me that two detainees who had raped a boy (the location of rape unknown) were_de to
I p •own na • an_. cu d in certain contorted positions They did_Ives. This was told to me in the T-SCIF. They stated the guy got what he deserved. When I returned from leave, as telling a story while in the chow hall. He was telling his friends (do not know who they were) about Ahu r raib n tow crazy it was. He said that MPs were using detainees as practice dummies. They would hit the detainees as practice shots They would apply strikes to their necks. Arid knock them out One detainee was so scared. The MPs held his head and told the detainee it would be all right and then they would do the same thing to the detainee. The detainee would plead for mercy. They all thought it was funny. When the CGS team arrived at Abu Ghraib, they were given a tour of Tier 1 A and B. While they were there, the MI folks were told by MPs that they ( I could do we ever they wanted with the detainees They participated in a PT session where they would yell at the detainees. Id me this. She said she was disturbed by this and thought this might corrupt the Ml folia. There was an ole r women s'_ere in Germany) worked in the out-processing of the Interrogations Control Element (ICE). She has red hair and is in the Army. Her story is that there was no accurate account of detainees being processed and that detainees were beine lost in the system (some who didn't_ first placer. Detainees were being held too long and not being released. When the ICRC came to visit_ thcred all the folks in the ICE, about 20-30 folks and told us not to worry about the ICRC concerns because _comp alms were abou_ c ditions. He sa•_eta ccs had it better at Abu Ghraib_ e were der SADAM HUSSEIN._ as there plus licvc. I expressed t_ at some of the things I hear an potentt problems. The sefTiTent got f_t1
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from him. I did not report the above incidents because I didn't think I would be listened to or what was being done, though personally offendable, was OK. What I was being told was seemingly well known because of all the involvement and discussions that went on. I was also not acquainted with the Interrogation Operations. I did not know who I could go to. Other times I have reported incidents, I met either retribution or no concern for what I had to say. During the war (Mar-Apr) I reported my OIC for
witne s, it was meticulously covered
several things he had said and done to me to IG. Instead of the truth being testified t ho told me during his findingsup, and ended with me as "the bad guy' (even though the same Battalion commander that indeed I was correct but that
of the investigation that it was all in my head, told me the day after that he spoke wi he was just glad it was over). Also, at Abu Ghuraib I reported to my Brigade S-2 a laptop that I discovered contained a database
of SECRET/NOFORN from Afghanistan on it that had been connected to the world wide web (unclassified) for undetermined amount of months, but it was treated as nothing, and the only thing done in this very potentially compromising situation was the laptop being disconnected and placed in the T-SCIF. Also, I had a promotable soldier who just days after being in the same room as alcohol (neither possessing nor consuming) was flagged, told he would get an article 15, and that he would have to go to a removal board (when the situation was unclear). When I went to higher about how ridiculous this was, I was told among other things that I was also to blame. After defending him, the flag was lifted, the article 15 not to happen, but he did in fact go to this
removal board, and despite his innocence had his status removed. After getting back from Iraq, me and the soldier went to JAG to ended a PROPONDERANCE of evidence to do anything
who directed us to EO who directed us to IG, who then t y OIC during the war when I was Targeting NCOIC), and
(something I was also told during my IG complaint wi because as long as they mask their actions through
that in reality if someone of higher authority has in for
regulations, they are untouchable. •
Q. Do you have anything else to add to this statement?
A. No.
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