Fay Report Annex: Statement of Civilian Contractor (Titan Corp.), Translator re: Detainee Treatment and Interrogation at Abu Ghraib Prison

This sworn statement is by a civilian contractor with the Titan Corp. assigned to Abu Ghraib prison on October 13, 2003 as a Linguist/Translator to conduct translation services during interrogations at the prison. The translator recalled hearing discussion of sleep deprivation of a detainee and recalled a shooting incident on November 24, 2003. He recalled seeing one detainee wearing women's underwear and the detainee had water tossed on him, while the detainee cried 'No!.' The translator also recalled seeing dogs in the cells, but was not sure for what purpose they were used. The translator stated that he "never observed dogs being used to frighten detainees…I am not aware of any humiliation done by an interrogator to a detainee. I worked with three British Interrogators. I have never had any problems with the linguists’ interpreters. I never had or saw any problems with any of the interrogators.”

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Interview
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Tuesday, May 25, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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PRIVACY ACT STATEMENT The 10 USC SEW) ; TWa 5 USC Section 2951: E.O. 9397 naiad November 22.1943 (SSN).
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1. LOCATION Metro Park, Alexandria. VA 5. LAST MIDDLE NAME 6. SSN 004105/25 (YYYYMMDD) 3. Tug 2 15 . FILE NUMBER 7. GRADE/STATUS
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•ttalliOnlifilli ., WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
I was hired by the TITAN Corporation as a linguist/translator on 1 October 2003 and deployed to Iraq. I arrived in Abu Ghtaib on 13 October 2 t t . This was my first assignment for TITAN. Upon my I initially was introduced so CW2 ho had responsibility for the linguists at Abu Ghralb. &audio& linguist assignments and a work schedule. Linguists were instructed to check a on a daily basis for scheduled inieirogations. If we had no scheduled interrogation we wo be "on to provide linguist support to the medics. rovided me a brief orientation of the facility and mission. He took me to see the wood site intesrogittioa center and
me observe linguist support to screenings to familiarize myself with operations. I remember reading and signing a statement that 1 understood the "Interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROS)." I believe it was a two page document, not the one page slide I was shown in this interview. Other than being provided that document to review I received no additional instruction in approved interrogation procedures or proper handling of detainees. Nobody elaborated on the MOE concerning what could or could not be done. It was a "check the block' procedure with no real explanation. I understood that you could not physically abuse or even touch a detainee and it would clearly be abusive to beat, punch or kick a detainee. 1 was never briefed on use of humiliation techniques or dogs in interrogations. I thought i military interrogators would know what was right-and wromr, I was only there to inovide translation. I asked assign me in the field as a screener and was told I would be in a "test period" for a few weeks to assess abilities ore any assignment Within one to two days of my arrival 1 was assigned to supportipleirCeations on
articipated in just a few interrogations while on this team. Present &ring a e was a big man of African decent Within two weeks I was reassigned led b the night shift. Also on this team were and ithin one to two weeks ofjoining tEis team 17 or 1 Inc that I would be working on a special project and I had fifteen minutes to pack for a wT trip.
nave e• south of Burs via aircraft and helicopter to a ship to pick up `Project #2," 3p alleged Al-Qakla detainee
• en escorted back to Abu Gluaib. detainees name was I believe hid11111111Mo (Identified in Photo 4213). assigned as the primary interrogator the analyst
wt me providing translation. We ha no otherdirties while working on "Project #2." We intrated inteiroptionSthe evening of ourI return and continued unerrogauons proximately once or twice a day. The interrogations were normal and nothing abusive was said ! or done to the detainee. 'd not use dogs, depnve the detainee of sleep or order removal of his clothes. •Hesestarally
tried to befriend be detainee his trust. While working o cam 1 conducted translations of severadoenments
captured with this detainee in between the daily interrogations. 1 can any more detail the frequency or duration of
Interrogations but that should be documented in the detaine ' 1 Included in files were who interrogated a detainee and how often.
After a week or two of interrogations, l'm not certain, as reassigned. This resulted in a "idle" period wheel had
nothing to do other than continued document non. About a week or two late ok over as theinterrogator
and we resumed interrogations. idn't conduct the intenogatices y than
er abused c detainee. He never trade him remove do onset's uudersvei
or lliMll. Most times, since it was cold, the detainee had a blanket during interrogations. y have ordered the detainees hair and
beard ihaved. I never heard him give this order or heard him bra . g about doing so • t a cornmented on the detainee's hair one day and a few days later the detainee was shaven. ever employed physical abuse. He never touched the detaineeor used dogs to interrogations and 1 never heard hinnell any detainee that dogs would be let loose im him. The detainee once told me that dogs were used on hini and other detainees but not specifically against him. I believe it may have occurredsearches but am not certain. He didn't tell me when or why, just that he was ' of do s. Ido t remember i was present when the detainee told me this but most likely he would have been ould sometimes make the
d in the corner or sit on the ground in the corner. Other than standing or sitting in the corner, 1 never observedse stress positions on the &Jaime. During most interrogations the detainee sat in a chair. Routinely the . * would complain7 being tired and being made to stand for long periods while in his cell. His feet were swollen and on
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occasion he asked to see a doctor. I believilliMiliksked a doctor what could be done for this detainee's • am.
doctors e . •• • • detainees • timely and on at least one occfilon did provide this detainee some medics

ere fully aware of these procedures and how this detainee and others were er ordered the detainee to for lo ods during the interrogations. One time, date unrecall L PAPPAS, and others visited and r a status of our detainee. I am certain they weil lillMIP detainees status, condition and treatm • y • ye ordered sleep deprivation as the detainee complained of I being tired but I have no knowledge of this. never him tell the MPs to give the detainee "a bad ni ht Once os.twice I heard

him tell the MPs he would get approval to adjust a detainees sleep pattern and on one occasion I sa *th some paperwork which he told me was approval to use sleep deprivation which hew taking to the MPs. always used paperwork to adjust or initiate sleep depnvatio no rougher than anyone else with the delai ees and was generally easy-going. Starting sometime in January, en mortar attacks became more frequen gan providing the detainee a flak vest . interrogations. The day of the 24 November 2003 shooting incident I was in the w hall waiting to go on shift at 2200 ho in and alerted everyone of a shooting. He then directed all linguists to provide immediate assistance to the ensuing interrogations. 1 worked straight through until approximately 1445 the following day. There was lots of commotion and I did sec some of the deta without clothing. I observed one detainee who was stripped and taken upstairs to the shower room for interrogation b and 1111111. believe but am not ertain that the made him wear women's underwear. I heard the detainee crying "no." I also saw them toss water on the detainee. did not conduct any interrogations that day. Most interrogations occurred in the hallway between Tier A and Tier seeing the MPs with dogs in the cells. There was too much confusion and I couldn't go through the cell block so I am uncertain what they were being used for. I assume they were conducting searches. There were a few other occasions where I observed dogs being used. One day (unrecalled) I saw the MPs s !arching detainee cells with dogs. Another time in Camp Vigilant, I saw the MPs searching the detainee's tents. They moved the detainees to one side while they searched the other. I never observed dogs being used to fri: • ten e . • . o.. .... ' . ; to February or early March 2004 I was reassigned and worked with
n a foreign fighter team. At this time I signed additional paperwork which I believe was an ... e r • .ut I'm not certain. I remained on thi e til my departure on 8 April 2004.
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WITNESSES Subscribed and sworn to before me, a person authorized by law to administer oaths, this 25 day of May , 2004 at Alexandria. VA
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