Fay Report Annex: Statement of Captain of the 372nd Military Police Company re: Detainee Operations at Abu Ghraib Prison

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Sworn statement of a Captain with the 372nd Military Police Company. The Captain states "I was shocked when I noticed that the detainees in Wing 1 were naked. There was one with women's underwear. . . . " Was told the nudity of detainees and their wearing ladies underwear was MI procedure. Also recalled, an instant where a soldier pushed a detainee with his foot into a cell. We had MI personnel without name tags; there were folks in civilian clothes, detainees, and ghost detainees. It was very frustrating. Things got a little better after the [ICRC] came to visit for the second time." "I have recently seen BG KARPINSKI on TV, I totally disagree with several of her statements. First off, how can anyone say that MP's are not responsible? I take full responsibility for my seven soldiers."

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SWORN STATEMENT
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I. LOCATION 2004/05/0 330
CAMP VICTORY, BAGHDAD, IRAQ 7. GRADE/STATUS
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AME, MIDDLE NAME
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ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS MD (DEPLOYED TO IRAQ)
372ND MILITARY POLICE COMPANY, CUMBERLAND,

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, WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
t. as in charge
role was 372nd MP Co Commander. When I arrived
ould go to him
I arrived to Bu Ghraib on 15 as in charge of the MI folks. He was involved
of the 320th MP Bn. I believe

something done. e ma e rigs happened. It wasn't until later that I found ou
when I needed
n't approachable. I began a Relief in Place with the previous Company Coalman r, 4 II " 44 ...ye me a tour of Abu Ghraib. He took me to the Hard Site in particular, WING 1.
wing They had the keys and would let people in and out. During onecontrolled access to the
. • • ge to the '• ted that the detainees in Wing 1 were naked. There was one with
was sh procedure. I then
of my visits wi t told me that the MI folks told him that was an
won •-• 1-3-A" • ione that and tice by Ml. I did think there asked the previous ny mm der d some folks from Other ng wrong, bu would go to Wing 1 with MI folks acceptable practice.. The
was s were an
r proce
Organization Agencies (OGA) so I just figured they knew wha never did question this to any MI Person.
They saw w
o
Mays were at all hours notot duri ng ne for the MI Rules of Engagement but I never
visit
rid I did ask
ed into it. Both
I should have look just without nametags; there were folks in
o w o was ho. We had
received them. There was some confusion
civilian clothes, detainees, and ghost detainees It was very frustrating. Things got a little better after the International
Community Red Cross (ICRC) came to visit for the second time. Sometime after that, they stopped having naked detainees. This

y when I
Ir. • .. iwiedge of any detainee abuse by MI personnel except for one da
occurred soh:telt= In December. 1 never saw cell. While he as
lull, big guy) an MI person. took a detaine wasnw
was down at Wing 1. One of the interrogators L e to a real hard. 1 went up to
't
getting him into the cell. he pushed the prison s'.. u •e'cell by giving him a push with his foot. It any photos
have no know ledge of
him and told him to stop that. There was no other abuse by MI personnel that I was aware of. I sa hear of M.I
d
or videos before the investigation began. The only time I heard of dogs used was after the shouting. I never w ur using dogs during their intzrrogations. We used to get mortar attacks a few times a week. That was a big issue with soldiers because ixabing was really being done. It caused a big morale issue. We recommended placing sandbags around the holding areas
g area but was told that
could hide behind them. We also requested bunkers to be placed in the holdin
but were told the cletautccs
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c as the construction of thecouldn't be done.
Q. Do you have anything else to add to this statement? Yes, f the CPA. I gave . I had eekl visits and corresponded through email wi There was a huge push
prison reports to the 320th BN of the SIMS of the construction an posse le completion es
morning pp
ps Another area I was focused on was supplies for tu g
e cam

to open up the rest of the prison because of over
at the prison. The Coalition Provisional Authonty (CPA) had theI worked closely with the Iraqi supply person an ere were many times that we had no supplies to include jump-suits worn by
primary responsibility for all supplies at the prison.
the inmates. Often when we did get a supply, it was of very few quantities and sizes. This was a major issue early on and after a
s were forced to wearinmatees
few months we were able to maintain some sort of stock. Often because of the lack of supplies many e femal ms
some male ite
w that wc had to give th
to small. 1 al
ladies underwear or articles of clothing either to I as a moral commander and never gave me an order or command climate was not good at AB
also The co
asked me to do anything that was unprofessional. 3 as in my opinion afraid of BG KARPINSKI and I even
told him a few times that I would try and answer e .., • • • • I. 1 e best 1 could. 1 only did this because she liked to
we walked around the prison, I tried to answer as often as I could for him.

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humiliate him or belittle him whe•.
he made comments regarding the reserves and I feel he was extremely prejudice.
Also, I had little to no respect fo t • a ... .. • he showed no respect to anyone. I witnessed him walk by a NCO who saluted
I saw . •1 • . • -ft G. • mons to it goes both ways!• 1
I.lew him completely off. The NCO was very upset and said" If you want respect sir,
him an.
• .'INSKI on TV, 1 totally disagree with several of her statements. First off, bow can anyone sa
have rec. - . • •
MP's are not responsible? I take full responsibility for my seven soldiers and believe they are the main problem not
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The last thing I would like to say is BG KARPINSKI has been a total disappoi her scapegoat and blamedonly time we saw her was when the media or a VIP was present. She also ma everything on him. Her staff was the most incompetent andlneves new who the
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