Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

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Interviewee was assigned to AG on or about October 10, 2003 approximately until the end of October 2003 as a member of a five person Mobile Training Team.
Interviewee recalled seeing a memo entitled "SECDEF Memo" which discusses approach strategies, including the use of military working dogs and sleep deprivation.

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Interview
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Wednesday, June 9, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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SWORN STATEMENT
For use of this torn see AR 190-45; the proponent y is 00CSOPS
LOCATION ! DATE TIME I FILE NUMBER
JIDC, Abu Ghurayb, Iraq 09 Jun 04 1
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. WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
I arrived in Abu Ghurayb, Iraq on or about 10 October 2003 and stayed here for about two weeks. I was a member of a
five-person Mobile Training Team (MTT) sent from the US Army Intelligence Center an School (USAICS). 11111/111111.1. •
(351E) lead the MTT made u of
kind myself.- The MTT wasprepared to train interrogators an analysts using material from the Program o Instructions (P01) of the 97E10 course, 97E30 course, the Department of Defense Strategic Debriefer Course (DSDC), and the
Intelligence Support to Countering Terrorism (ISCT) course. My contribution to MTT was the 97E30 P01 that I had prepared
at the Military Intelligence NCO Academy atFort Huachucit, AZ All of the 97E30 P01 was based primarily but not exclusively on FM 34-7-1 Counterintelligence said Human Intelligence Operations (Dated September 2002), FM 34-52 Intelligence Interrogation (Dated September 1992). and
DIAM 58-12 The DoD HUM1NT Management System (Dated June 1997). We also had access to a memorandum that talked
about approach strategies outside of the ones mentioned in FM 34-52 (Like the use of military working dogs, sleep
deprivation, etc) This memo was classified SECRET/Nofom and the MTT referred
to it as the "SECDEF Memo." I observed 10-15 interrogation sessions while at abu ghurayb and gave feedback to
the individual interogator. I conductedseveral hours of the training in a classroom environment pertaining to topics like cultural/religious awareness, approach strategies, questioning techniques, behavior symptom analysis, terrorist organizations.
interpreter use, etc. The audience thatthe MIT trained was made up of military and civilian interrogators and analysts
who were working in the Joint Interrogationand Debriefing Center (JIDC). The audience vaned•trom day to day and from morning
to afternoon as personnel in the HDc„were fully engaged in interrogation operations. The only thing out of ordinary was the lack of booth space for interrogations
to a degree where interrogators had to use the foot of a stairwell, the shower facility,
or even the jail cells in the hardsite to'conduct interrogauons. I did not witness any detainee abuse or humiliation while I was present at Abu Ghurayb. I did not sany dogs present during any of the interrogations while 1 was at Abu Ghurayb.
1 saw two male detainees (who had just
arrived to the prison lacilityi naked while they came out of the shower and the MPs
issued them their orange overalls whichthey put on. The MPs then took them to their cells and interrogators started to screen
them to assess their cooperation and
knovyledgeability. I did, however, hear there was Criminal Investigations
Division (CID) investigations goi on but netold me any of the details nor did I inquire about it. At one point, while the MTT was still at Abu Ghurayb,
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Interrogation Control Element (ICE) Officer In Charge (OIC) gathered all JIDC
personnel in the ICE and ask o e to read and sign a memorandum which was very similar to the CJTF-7 Interrogation
and Counter-resistance Policy
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