Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

Interviewee was assigned to AG from the end of July 2003 to December 21, 2003 as an interrogator with the 519th Military Intelligence Battalion.
Interviewee was aware of detainees wearing women's underwear, and learned of an incident where a soldier made a detainee walk around the facility naked. Also, interviewee attested to being brought naked detainees to interrogate, but stated that it was never at his/her request.
Interviewee recalled an incident where he/she was supposed to sit in on an interrogation with an OGA, but was not allowed access, a sheet also prohibited his/her view into the interrogation booth. Interviewee recalled hearing loud sounds, one sound sounded like "something had hit the table." Interviewee also recalled that the OGA officer had his sidearm on him, which against the rules of the facility.
Interviewee recalled using an approved-adjusted sleep schedule on a detainee.
Interviewee also recalled an incident where one of their detainee's beds was mangled by a dog. The interviewee inspected the detainee's bed and saw that their bed had been "ripped apart."
The detainee also recalled an incident that took place after a shooting at the facility, interviewee recalled seeing Iraqi Police detainees in the breezeway outside of 1A, where approximately 40 of them had been stripped searched.
Interviewee also identified one of their detainees in a photograph, which depicts the detainee bound and on his knees with an unmuzzled guard dog held in front of him.

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Interview
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Wednesday, June 2, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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Metropark, Springrfield, VA ' 2004/06/02 12;0 kr-S..
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8. ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS
A Co, 519th MI Bn, Fort Bragg, NC 28310


WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
From the end of Jul 03 to 21 Dec 03 I was deployed to Abu Glunb (AG), Iraq as an interrogator with A Company, 519th MI Bn.
All the interrogations I participated in or witnessed were conducte. w •.,.. ., ...tenons of FM 34-52 and the established
Interrogation Rulei of Engagement (IROE). The IROE written by

nablished our authorized limits concerning
interrogation techniques. Shortly after my arrival to AG, I was bra

-• on . l' OE and also signed a memorandum stating I understood and would ..ollow the IROE. In my opinion. the IROE were clear and adequately established our left and right boundaries concerning interrogation techniques. Throughout my time at AG. the interrogators were creative in their techniques, but 1 never witnessed anything that was outside the IROE during an interrogation. Interrogation plans were required for iit ,.
interro ation. The mission of my team was to identify required intelligence information concerning alleged members d on a list provided by higher headquarters. The list was old and in many cases inaccurate. We derivedarlOr P
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orma ion through direct questioning since there was not a lot of resistance from the detainees. This minion eventually was
phased out and was replaced by other "special" missions, including Operation McClellan 1, 2 and 3. I was assigned to two
different teams. I was on the Foreign Fighter Team for approximately two weeks until I went on leave and the Foreign
Fighter/Extremist team upon my return. I did sec naked detainees in the facility. I was brought naked detainees on occasion to
interrogate. At no time did 1 request any detainees be stripped before being brought to interrogations. I do not know who ordered
the detainees to be naked. I witnessed detainees wearing women's underwear. I did not request this to be done and was told the
reason for the women's attire was the MP's were expenencmg a supply shortage and the women's underwear were all that was
available for the detainees. I was aware of theell~unident involving her walking a naked detainee around the facility.
This incident occurred while was on leave. I do not recall who told me of the incident, but it did become a topic of discussion in

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the office, specifically whether or not it was the right thing to do. In my opinion, this was clearly outside the bounds of the IROE.
After the 20 Sep 03, mortar attack on the facility, I conducted my first interrogation in the hard site. I interrogated the person
suspected of firms the mortar. 1 did not spend a lot of time with the detainee as he was transferred to the 325th MI Bn
interrogators who assumed the mission. In Sep 03. I was supposed to sit in on an interrogation with an OGA member. I was not
allowed to participate in the interiogauon and a sheet was placed over the opting of the interrognicm booth which prohibited

i anyone from seeing inside. • During the interrogation, things got a little loud and there was a sound like something had hit the table.
I confronted the OGA member and he told me it was his hand hitting the table. During the discussion I noticed he still carried his
I sidearm, which was against the rule for the f • . . I told him about the sidearm requirement and he checked the wee_ pon with the

MP's. I reported the incident to... On or around 13 Dec 03, just after the capture of SADAAM HUSSEIN, my
¦ team was tasked to go to LSA Croppeilunder thriuspices of interrogating SADAAM HUSSEIN. During this time, I helpedconduct a Vulnerability Xisessment of-the Cropper facility. The interrogation never occurred and the team eventually returned to AG. Around this time, my team interrogated a high level detainee with suspected ties to Al Quada. After we got him to his cell in1A, we went through the documents found on him during his apprehension. COL PAPPAS and MG FAST showed intense interest to the interrogation and I felt COL PAPPAS would approve any interrogation procedure I requested to facilitate the interrogation process. In my opinion, COL PAPPAS was more interested in getting intelligence information quickly than allowing the
I interrogator to choose the best approach. There was a lot of pressure to report intelligence information concerning this detainee.
' There was not a lot of intelligence reporting from the interrogation as it was more of an assessment. In Dec 03. 1 used an adjustedsleep schedule as an interrogation technique. I requested the procedure and it was approved by COL PAPPAS. I believe anadjusted sleep schedule is at the C levelfor a rove . en an adjusted sleep schedule is approved, the schedule is provided tothe MP's to follow. In Dec 03, told me he was approached by an MP who told him that a guard doghad visited one of my team's asci rne detainees. I imme ately went to the detainee's cell. The detainee claimed the guard dogcame into his cell and mangled his bedding. Upon further Inspection of the cell, 1 noticed the bedding had been ripped apart. I didnot request the use of the guard dog and do not loiow who authorized the guard dog to go into the cell. It took severe to calm down the detainee and this incident was detrimental to my interrogation approach. In Dec 03, etc I escorted detainee back to his cell after an interrogation, we turned to leave and heard what could have been a person being struck.
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9. STATEMENT (Continued) We talked to the MP's and reminded them they needed to sta and to not let emotions dictate their actions. The situation did not feel right and I reported the incident to In Dec 03, after the shooting incident involving adetainee with a pistol, I arrived at the scene approximately two to our hours after the incident occurred. I saw approximately 10Iraqi Police detainees in the breezeway outside of 1A, and heard that approximately 40 .1raqi police officers had been strippedsearched. as in charge, walked around the room and may have participated in the interrogations of some of thedetainees. When 'vcd at the location, I told her that the hallway needed to be cleared and a course of action neededto be established. —During my time at AG, I did not personally witness any detainee abuse. I am shocked at the pictures and haveno knowledge of who approved the use of th rd dog depicted in picture "213". (The picture is of a guard dog, without a muzzle being held in front of who is bound an n his knees) as one of my assigned detainees. Iinterrogated him for four or ive days be ore -transferring him t poll my departure from AG. I departed AG on 21 Dec 03.
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