Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

Interviewee arrived to AG in July 2004
Interviewee recalled an incident that involved a soldier screaming at detainees after a mortar attack.
Interviewee noted that the use of dogs required prior approval.

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Interview
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Sunday, May 2, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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PRIVACY ACT STATEMENT
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Title 10 USC Section 301; Title 5 USC Section 2951; E.O. 9397 dated November 22, 1943 (SSKI.
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LOCATION

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DATE (YYYYMMD 4. FILE NUMBER
Camp Arifjan, Kuwait 2004105102

ME, MIDDLE NAME
6. SSN 7. G„,stifrA-rus
B. ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS
320th.Military Police Battalion
41r°
, WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
I arrived at Abu Ghraib in July 04. We were the only ones there and I believe the 519th MI had a company that arrived around the same time we did. The 320th MP Bn was in charge of base operations and we were under the 800th MP BDE. We had contact with MI Leadership on a daily bases because they attended our Battalion Staff meeting. All units at Abu Ghraib had a
representative
there. During the meetings we would discuss issues relating to detainees such as medical, billeting, water, food, and
ter_ lain_
disctlsssd that
not to take part in interrogitions. Personnel who were in charge of MI soldiersI di ' v a detail conversation with MI in reference to
detain
of Engagement. provid copy of the MP Rules of Engagement. At the
time we arrived, only Camp Vigilant was operational. The Hard
was no open yet and neither was Camp Ganci. Except forone time, I never saw or was aware of any detainee physical abuse. The incident I am referring to occurred on 22 September. We had just had a mortar attack. The guard at the tower saw personnel moving outside the area. I sent in the QRF after the individuals. Two individuals were captured and brought in It was procedure to have the Mt Spr sound brought in. Idrove to the Entry Control Point and MI drove . t be d me. The individuals caught wereXA
.I personnel moved
the detainees to the back of the vehicle.
c up to me and told me something. I didn't hear him because I was onthe radio with higher. When I finished
d a of o yelling going on. I went to where the yelling was occurring and asked theNCOIC what the problem was. -I told the NCOIC to escort the detainees to the holding area and meet me bac in the battalion
TOC. By the time I amved at the TOC, the NCOIC was already there vri ed me ifanything like this had happened before. I said no. I found out that the soldier -tent out was m uni that had just received
mortars and had two soldiers killed from the mortars. I told him that you don't send soldiers out who were that emotional. I told
Mill he needed to take some disciplinary action such as reprimand, counsel, or send him to be seen for combat stress. I do not
• remember the soldier's name. CID took the case but deterred it to the chain of command. I do not know what disciplinary actions
were taken. Three weeks after the
incident, the 519th redeployed. I notified my battalion commander about the incident. I do noticnow of any other in 'dent. I never aw or had any knowledge of MI using dogs during the interrogations. The use of dogs had to be approved by Or to the investigation beginning I never saw or had knowledge of any photos or videos of MI
personnel with .
taking of photos was not authonzed and we would take cameras away from individuals we caughttaking photos. .This policy was ut o ix days a week and personnel caught would be punished and cameras confiscated. I never
nad any discusSion witht r COL PAPPAS on detainee abuse occurring in the prison. One issue we were concernabout was the frequent rtar au ,: .
—We did not have enough personnel to provide the adequate protection for the camp. Wenad a challenge trying to get all units at Abu Ghraib ED cooperate and assist with force protection of the site. It wasn't until we lost
the two soldiers during the mortar attack that we started to receive additional help. We received a platoon from 1/504th and COL PAPPAS brought in the 165th MI BN with their LRSD to het with force roteetion. But this was simply the protection inside and
the towers. No one was providing support outside our area.
came to visit Abu Ghraib one day. He went up to theguard tower and said take the fight out to the field. We didn ve the g to do that. We had too many other responsibilitieswith the detainees.
Q. Do you have anything else to add to this slammed..
A. No.
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