Interviewee was assigned to AG on October 21 as the Chief of the Terrorist, Foreign Fighters and Extremist element of the JIDC.
Interviewee recalled one detainee being handcuffed to the cell bar, which restricted his movement.
Interviewee recalled another detainee doing physical training, the MPs had him carry water jugs back and forth, up and down the hallway.
Interviewee discussed one high-value detainee's allegations of abuse, the detainee spoke of a cold water incident, the interviewee stated that the cold water incident he alleged was actually a shower (cold water was all that was available), and regarding the detainee's allegations of being hit in the mouth, interviewee stated that in fact the detainee had a tooth infection that had to be treated, and was treated.
Interviewee then recalled an incident where a detainee who jumped up against an interrogator and was punished with shaved head-'a new look.'
Interviewee heard of an incident where a hooded and cuffed detainee was being brought back to his cell and tripped and fell.
Interviewee also observed barking dogs "being used for an interrogation."
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NAME
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CI Detachment Zama, 500th MI Group, APO AP 96338
I,Villialibl
, WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
I arrived at Abu Ghraib (AG) on 21 October and was assigned as as the Chief of the Terrorist, Foreign Fighters and Ex
element the JIDC. At various times I had the folio ' to m team, but not all at the same time:
Went thro ban and tow immediately after myAmy , as y arriving personnel. the IROE portion of the orientation. The IROEswere in line with current doctrine and so race •. experienced in previous assignments. loomingpersonnel had to acknowledge in writing they bad been informed of and understood the IROEs. I did not have any concerns overthe IROE and was pleased to see that certain procedures, especially sleep deprivation, had to be approved by LTG Sanchez. Sleep management technique and process was being developed as I was leaving GTMO and I had wandered how it was worked out and put into practice It was good to see that a higher approval authority (LTG Sanchez) was required. The IROEs were posted innumerous places and were quite conspicuous. I do not recall if the in processing involved reading the 12 October Memorandum .signed by LTG Sanchez. We were aware of the techniques and procedures that required approvals, especially those that requiredapproval by the G. Interrogators and first line supervisors knew to ask if they were uncertain on any of the approval levels. My duties called for me to participate directly in interrogations as well as observe the interrogations conducted by personnel inmy section. I did not observe or hear about any violations of the IROEs. On one ' one dogs barking and
asked about u and was told they wcre being used for an interrogation. I had been told by bout the general proceduresfor dogs: they had to be requested and approved with an IROE exc.&• memo , could not be in the booth,only present in the area and the dogs could not touch the used the dogs, said be had requested approval. 1did not see the approval, but knew that the SOP was tha wo have given the go ahead if she had not received
the proper authority. At one time I had requested appro • use s cep management and to use the MP dogs but did not employ
either as the approval was not received in a timely manner It was not until 6 weeks after I requested it that the approval
camethrough I did not see the written approval but was informed that it had been approved. The process for obtaining approvals wasthat the interro to request it in writing in accordance with the interrogation plan and submit it to the section leaderwho sent ii to who would in nun forward it thru the Deputy Commander to Cl/JTF-7. As far as I know there wasno tracking sys ecuoo level - I put the request in the distribution box and checked later to see if it was gone. If it wasno longer there, I assumed that ops had forwarded it, since it was not returned to me. We were transitioning from a paper/hardcopy system to an automated system had been put in place for recording and tracking the detainees. The maneuver element was
supposed to send ie detainee with a capture ta i
l and preluninary screening info when the detainee was forwarded to us. Detaineesof unelhgence*mterest were put on "MI Hold' as Soon as they were identified as such. Our screeners would take the pipe ork to the detainee and prepare a screening review which was forwarded to the magistrate, who in turn passed the packet
the operations folks. There the into (identifying tnfo, capture data, location, etc) was entered into the
computer system by thc AG Nuniber, the ISN Number and cross referenced to name.
The bard copy dossier was then passed to
the Section leaders who parceled them out to the teams Most of the time we cross ducked the hard copy with the data base to
make surc tbe info had been catered. Tbe interrogaors entered follow up data from the ''on process as they progressed.
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1 arn not s.ura if thc data basc can be assessed from outside Iraq. A civilian woman named traveled to' the various
units training them on the system would be the best person to contact about that accessing
canerzic Automated Tool (BAT)data baselligher priority MI hold detainees would e interrogated as soon as possible. Other MI hold detainees couldconceivably bc held for up to Hvo months before beseg interrogated. During Oct and Nov the pace was very hectic at AG in fact
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it Was 'crazy". 14 to IS hours days were the norm. We bad constant mortar attacks and other types of harassing fire and the
maneuver eleMentS were 'orally flooding us with new detainees As we finished interrogations and felt we had exhausted
intelligence value we forwarded the packets the Detas Assessment Branch for processing and consideration for release. Tlx
DAB m=o would be filled out and put uuo and processing. I could check the data base from mysection and sec if the memo had been aeon the Da
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9. STATEMENT (Continued)
I observed or heard about some out of the ordinary procedures as explained below. One detainee in an unrecalled block (where the Iraqi Police were held when the round up was conducted) was handcuffed to the cell bar - he could move a short distance and could sit down but was handcuffed in such a manner that his movement was somewhat restricted. He was restrained in this manner because he had tried to attack one of the MPs who had been searching his cell for drugs. On another occasion I observed another detainee in Block 1B being put through a physical training session by the MPs by having to carry water jugs back and forth, up and down the hallway. Another occasion involved a high value detainee we knew was coming in for interrogation. He
I told us that he had cold water thrown on him and wheni p westioned him on the details we found that he had been given a shower and all we had was cold water. This detainee has recently been quoted in the London Times about the cold water incident and said he had been beaten and hit in his mo th . e actually favored him and treated him quite well, with extra rations and cigarettes, etc to have him feel like he was being favored and to keep him talking. The mouth incident was actually a tooth infection and we had made sure he had dental care. This particular detainee had been in Kurdish control for some time before he was trans o us. f the results of the Red Cross visit was a stipulation that all detainees had to be dressed in orange jumpsuits. made a comment that it did not stipulate how in o a jump suit so he reportedly cut off the sleeves and legs and made it m two pieces for the detainee to wear. At the tim working a "special project" and reported directly to COL Pappas and did it to one particular detainee who was a cted high level al Qaeda operative. On another occasion we experienced a slight problem when we returned a detainee to his cell from the wood site. This detainee was always hostile and arrogant. On this particular occasion he ainst the interrogator and right after jumped up and down in place (as would a small child throwing a tantrun). * sai'i that because of this, the detainee would "haw! a new look' - the next morning his head was shaved. . I never saw any abuse or humiliation of prisoners by either Army personnel or OGA personnel. I do not know of any
ized use of guard dogs for interrogation. I never saw any unauthorized photos or videos of detainees. However, when in processed, I was told he took a picture of • •mit _,.. . I • that he was told to delete it, he was not allowed to
e pictures. He immediately deleted the picture. Later was taking a picture of a departing female in the ops
shop and I told him to delete the photo, which he did. I am o en HI: all my Soldiers or civilian/contract interrogators would
have come to me to report any humiliation or abuse. I amthat most of the other Soldiers and civilians/contractors would
also come to me, as they had a sense of trust in me. I knew from a previous assignment, but on this tour he was not assigned
to me and we did not work together. I feel he is arrogant an cocky and he did not talk to me. I saw him in the booth on
occasion, but did not really erve his work. I heard about his attitude from others b. t never heard problems about his
work. I did not work wi and did not hear anything adverse about his work. was very confident,
almost arrogant. He felt he o d have been in charge and no • to w• k for a military interrogator and not have to listen to a
SGT or SSG. I never heard any complaints about his work. A as very reliable and I would have believed him if
he came to me about observing any abuse - he never did so. e .... •o, AIL, all my Soldiers would have done so. I saw them on a
daily basis and h ekly section meetings. On one occasio• was walking a detainee from his cell and I was
escorting them had hooded and cuffed him and turned •d.. aro 1 • to walk down the stairs. The detainee lost his balance
ad ready returned to the ICE but two soldiers saw this and immedia s•rted it to me. I immediately informed was an accident and not deliberate. She immediately address and the MP shift NCOIC about the was always bragging and stretching the truth Toward the end o mber he was working as an anal st received an Article 15 for drinking. I do not know if he ever worked wi He pal'd around wi Interrogators might not know what the MPs were doing or what they w supposed to do or not do. C t
t e • s had more leeway than we did, but the MPs should also know right from wrong. The interrogate' uld know what they are allowed to do and what they cannot do. Q: is there anything else you would like to add? A: N /////;/////1/1/////////////////////1//////////////////////////End of Statement///////////////////////////n///////i///////// ////////////////////////
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