Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

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Interviewee arrived to AG on October 6, 2003 as a member of the GTMO team consisting of CW3 [redacted].
Interviewee noted that it was his/her job to approve interrogation techniques prior to their use.
Interviewee stated that he/she had knowledge of detainees on sleep deprivation and dietary management. Also, was aware of the use of stress positions (e.g. having a detainee sitting against the wall for 15 minutes).
Stated that he/she knew of nakedness in GTMO, but did not use the technique. Noted that he/she would see naked detainees in the hard site once in a while.
Interviewee noted on one occasion, he/she saw a MP put pink ladies underwear on a detainee, the interviewee stated "I believe he said that the detainee was placed in pink I silky women's underwear because the detainee was being punished for something he, did wrong."
Recalled an evening where a detainee had a weapon and shot at MPs, stated that on that evening, dogs were used. At one point he/she was almost bit by a dog; the dog did bite the handler.
Also, recalled seeing a detainee being force fed an IV, the MPs would hold him down while the IV was in him.
Interviewee also recalled hearing about a female officer stripping a detainee naked and walking him back from interrogations.

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Interview
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Friday, June 4, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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eNone of the other Team members had to give classes ~Ji~Ccd in a leadership were not allowed to conduct interrogations in GTMO . e, at Abu Gbraib, conducting interrogations. The GTMO Team would get together every once in a Tiger Team Concept was going on and on how the interrogauon plans and files were were focused on establishing a database and making sure everyone could find it and gather to
properly train other analysts by sitting with them. They didn't have to write reports but ~ey revie~ed some: In to One day when I came o.n shift, I was told by someone that a d~tamee had died ~e rught befOJil'I haI)pelled was that OGA chained a detamee up m the shower area and the detamee ended up dymg. 1went a problem with what OGA did to this Detainee could come ba . us
that OGA had their own rules. I then went me the same thing. My concern placed in the cell without being documented. the OGA issue needed to be changed and he agreed that they needed to change it. After I moved from the Tiger to be placed as the coordinator with OOA, but that didn't happened. I didn't see OGA treat their detainees any different ~the MI detamees. One day when I was walking through the Hard Site, I remember seeing naked detainees in the Iraqi Police site (MPs area). I do not
knOW why they were naked. I saw them naked every once in a while (about weekly). I never questioned the MPs. Anyone who
walked through the area should have seen the same thing I saw. In reference to ladies underwear: I remember one MP put a
/detainee in underwear. The MP was an African American male and an E-5. I believe be said that the detainee was placed in pink
, siilcy wo;nen' s underwear because the detainee was being punished for something he did wrong. I did Int get any other

information on why the detainee was in sill;: panties._··was in a cell on the second floor and anyone who walked by could see this. I didn't report it because I knew tha would walk around daily and would see this. I saw some detainees shackled to the bed bars, but never to my tams . The MPs ran the cages and they knew I was one of the OTMO guys and they dIdn't mess With my detainees or me. J would tell them that if they do not touch my detamees unless I told them specifically to do somethmg. We would suggest to the MPs what we wanted them to do to the Detainees, i.e., give them more food, but we had control of our detamees. J was not at the Hard Site the night of the shooting on 24 November, I was volWlteered to go. I had heard that there was a detainee who had a weapon in the cell and that the MPs were yelling at him "Drop it. Drop it " The detainee would not drop the weapon. The de_MPsand our MPs fired back. I did not see this.
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No one really had a duty when I arrived. I am not sure if It wa ho came up with a plan, There was a DetaineeIwho was sitting in a vehicle (he had good knowledge of who wa ormer e yeen). We would take the Iraqi Police and he .iiiiOUldidentify them as a Former Fedayeen or not. HIS results we.re very accurate with names we already had. Once identified as s, they were set aside to la_uoned That individual selected to question the selected individuals waS .,Iand be had lus interpreter, dld one IDterrogation that evening in the storage area off to the side of the

. ei'rbecame pan of the group w 0 ept the iraqi Police quiet (Shut Up Group). I did see dogs that evening. They I were checkmg the cells. At one time, the dog almost~'the handler. I do not know if the detainees were ,Ill the cells wh_nt in there that everung. 'd do one interrogation, I found out he was Iquestiorung th reporter, when I found , 0 SLOp because this was detainee. He There ! was notiung vi mg e OE ID that panicular Interrogauon The MP's conducted a search Ion I,II!!pons possibly smuggled in the Hard Sne The next da)', I was on a team Iand who checked all the IPs from the next slutt I dId thJs until I left. The only Isaw as w en ii-det.aJ.Ilee wasbcmg forced fed with an J v. 1was told this was to help him eat. MPs would hold him down I whlle the IV was on hun I dId hrar that before I got there two IDterrogaLOrs from Fort Bragg had inte~e~inee I
I WIthout approval and they were MIIIerrogauon operatIOns. There was also the incident with The night
I of the mCldeD!, she told me that had taken her OUt of interrogations because she had walked a naked deta bac, lrom IDt_asked me I ew what aClJoru they would take against her and J told her She was in trouble. After the meldeDt,: had a formation and told everyone to make sure they were following the IROEs and we bad to sign them
I agaID. e a wor ed in the night shift knew about the incident, but it who were on the day shift did not know what happened I saw an MP (E-6 with Mustache, later identified I also identified the female the photo was takrn of ID one of the photos' a piCTure of a female detarnee who was leavmg the Hard Site. I camera or take plcrures, I also told hun that If I fmd out he IS takmg tos of MI Detamees, he was going to deal with me. . I asked of the DIS and I destroyed the dIsk. I never reported the mCldent to lugher. I do not know why he had the camera in the hard site and I do not know wWllt·their detainees, but Iioid him not to mess with the MI Hold. Soon after that, I departed IRAQ. I was e-malled b on several occasions where be told me: of the: IDvestigation going on and provided some questions being asked I rOVl ease e-malis to the Invesugauve Team as part of this statement. I was also ordered not to dis.,anythmg about thJs IDvestigauon with anyone. Q. Is there anythmg else you would like to add to this statement? A. N I I I IIIIIIIi7IIII I /I I 1/////1/I I 1/I11//11//IIII//IIIIII/END OF 5TATEMENT/IIIII/IlIlt///1 /1///11///////1/11// 11//1/1/1//1//1////1 /1//1/1/
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