Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

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Interviewee was assigned to AG in mid-October 2003 as a member of the Fusion Analysis Cell; interviewee had Top Secret Clearances.
Recalled an incident occurring in the hard site, where the MPs had two detainees in the middle of the cell, naked, with a bag over their heads, standing on MRE boxes and their hands spread out, holding a bottle in each hand. The MPs explained that this was normal.
Interviewee recalled seeing dogs being used. Recalled an instance where two detainees were in the back of a humvee while a dog handler sat across from them with his/her dogs.
Recalled being told by two analysts of an incident where the analysts witnessed [redacted] throwing a nerf football at several detainees; the detainees were naked on the floor.
Another incident the interviewee learned of was "when a detainee wanted to smoke[,] [t]he MPs let him smoke but they made him smoke the entire pack within 30 minutes while he did PT [physical training]."

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Interview
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Tuesday, May 18, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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I arrived at Abu Ghraib in Mid October 2003. When I first arrived, I was asked if I wanted to work in the Fusion Analysis Cell
(FAC). There were only a few soldiers with Top Secret Clearances and I was one of them. I agreed to work in the FAC. There
were a total of five individuals working in the FAC. My focus was on the Foreign Fighters and Extremist Cell. We would bring
together all intelligence on these groups from the interrogation reports. From the reports, we would develop Link analysis and
analytic assr.:ssments. I didn't really do interrogations, but did sit in on a few. I was asked to help the interrogators and better
guide them with specific questions to assist in gathering intelligence. When I first arrived, I didn't receive train' on the
Interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROEs) or the Geneva Convention. There was one time wJ Id a •
formation and told everyone to read the 1ROEs and sign them (this was prior to the CII) investigairJe were then given
updated IROEs and a class on them when the 202d MI BN assumed responsibility of the JIDC. This was Jtime in February
2004. At the time I arrived, I believe LTC JORDAN was in charge. Once m J left. I was placed in
charge of the FAC. I worked in the FAC the entire time I was at Abu Ghraib with the exception of six weeks when I left to work
in a Tactical HUMINT Team at the entry control point. I never witnessed or heard of any detainee abuse. The only thing close
to it was: when we first arrived, The GTMO SGT took us on a tour of the facility. While in the Hard Site, we saw the MPs had
two detainees in the middle of the cell. They were naked with a bag over their head. standing on MRE boxes and their hand
spread out each holding a bottle in each hand. I asked if this was right. I was told by the GTMO (NCO)that this was the MP's
way ot disciplining detainees and that it was normal. Apparently the detainees had tried to stab some other detainee. I believe
thatJ500th MI in Japan) was also .'ith me, h ye never seen or heard of pictures and videos of detainees prior to
the CID investigation. After the investigation,. • a girl he believed to be an MP with pictures of detainees. 'He.,
came to me to tell me about it. I told him to take it to CID and report it. I saw dogs being used a few braes. The detainees were
in the back of a Humvee.with the dog handlers and the dogs. The detainees were sitting on one side while the dog handler was •'
sitting on the opposite side. The dogs were next to the dog handler. I know the drivers and passengers were MI, interrogators
and/or analysts. I recognize one civilian. He had blond hair. a goatee, was chunky, about 27-28 years old, and about 5'7 or 5'11.,
From my understanding, they would always have prim approval to use the dogs. Dogs were also used for crowd control along •
the concertina wire. There were two analyst who we ansterred into my section because they were no longer allowed to
interrogate. These two, J were geeJoutstanding soldiers. These two individuals
came to me (separately) with concerns of something they had done. Jold me that 0111.1.111111111.sn't involved that
he went to the JIDC and asked',Jgo with him because—he wanted to show him something They went to th
site w re the MPs had several detainees n ed on the floor and a nerf ball waJthrown at the detainees. ot into it and threw a nerf ball at the detainees After they left, JaskedJhe was okay becausehe loo ed con n. They told me they were a . ci and they wanted my advice. I told each that theyJcd to get some legal
advice. I told
ey told me they knew about it and that 1 should not have been told about this;
I went ahead and reported it to CID just in c they had not heard. They said they knew bout it. The only other incident that I heard of which might have been considered humiliation was when a detainee wanted to smoke. The MPs let titin smoke but they made him smoke the entire pack within 30 minutes while he did PT In reference to OGA detainees, I only dealt with this situation once. I wanted to speak to one of their detainees who was a foreign fighter and belonged to OGA. 1 asked and was told
he would not come to me but that I would be able to see the report OGA wrote up on SIPR. I never got it or saw it. One of the
problems we had was sharing information or obtaining intormation with other units conducting interrogations. The reports would he posted on the portal or a similar site, but the interrogator notes were not posted. One time I saw a report that would have very helpful to me a month previous. I began to make back channels to share information with other interrogators. This workedout great but my leadership got mad for doing that. I kept doing it because there was information they had d us
v -10 analysis diagrams and write analytic assessments I was shown some photos. .Photo #23 show king at naked detainees. Photo #11 in file named CG La mark shows a female interpreter (name unknown anda CACI interrogator. There was another photo which showedan interpreter working with one of the Military Poli
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