Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

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Interviewee arrived at AG on October 23, 2003 in order to conduct interrogation operations.
Interviewee recalled an incident in December where a dog was used during the interrogation of an Iraqi Police (IP) detainee.
Interviewee also noted that a detainee was bitten by a dog that same evening.

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Interview
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Tuesday, April 27, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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SWORN STATEMENT •
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DISCLOSURE:
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I. LOCATION
2004/04/271— 2200 Abu Ghraib, Iraq, APO AE 09335
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6. SSN
E. MIDDLE NAME
SGT
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66th MILITARY INTELLIGENCE GROUP, Deployed to Abu Ghraib Correctional Facility, Abu Ghraib, Iraq, APO AE 09335
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WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
I arrived at Abu Ghraib on 23 October 2003 to conduct interrogation operations. When I first arrived to Abu Ghraib, I received a tour of the facilities, screening area, the living Support Areas and all the work areas. I conducted a right scat ride with the individual I was replacing. I received the Interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROE) and signed the IROE. I really didn't have any questions. It was pretty clear what we could and could not do. I have never witness any abuse of detainees or photos of
Hard Site. An Iraqi police had managed
detainees by Ml personnel. I did see one instance where a military dog was used in the
was not erative and the

to provide a detainee in the hard site with a pistol. An interrogation was on going and the detain
happened in
dogs were used. The dog was in the cell with the detainee. The dog was close to the interpret is
be approved by higher command and I
December. 1 found out a detainee had been bitten that same night. This technique had to
a detail
was told this had been approved (the use of a dog). When we wanted to deviate from the approved IROEs had to
as inplan and get it approved by LTG SANCHEZ. COL Pappas was in charge and had control of operations and charge of the Interrogation Control Element. My belief was that BG Fast was in charge of the camp.
Q. Do you have anything to add to this statement?
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B. ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS 66th MILITARY INTELLIGENCE GROUP, DARMSTADT, GERMANY
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After regling about and seeing pictures of some of the incidents ofpossible detainee abuse on the interact I want to mention some recollections of matters I observed while assigned at Ahu Ghraib. The first pertains to a picture on the Internet of-a detainee with a hood over his head handcuffed to a railing on the top floor. (Lam not able to identify the detainee in the picture). I observed a similar incident on one occasion when I was in the area to pick up a detainee for interrogation. I observed a detainee hooded and handcuffed to a railing. I asked the MP what it entailed and was informed that since the MPs were short handed they often had to "park" a detainee somewhere if they could not immediately return him to his cell. I do not remember the identity of the detainee or the MP. I did not report this to anyone as the explanation by the MP was plausible td . w . practice due to the shortage of MPs. The second matter.pen.ains to a picture on the internes of a MP g next to a detainee Ina hallway. The detainee (reportedly) had a brown substance spread over his body. a detainee we c referred to as "shiny` because be would often defecate in his cell and throw the feces around. at time throwing it L mi
thlec31 s. (This particulio detainee appeared to act very strangely at times and might have bad a mental condition). On this particular occasion at • nucha 1 saw him sleeping on a mattress on the floor in the hallway. handcuffed and covered with a blanket. I asked the MP what was going on and was informed that the detainee had defecated in the cell, covered himself with feces and thrown feces around the cell and at the. MPs. The MPs had to take him to the showers to clean him up and clean his cell - that was shy he was sleeping on a mattress on the floor. Again I did not report this, as simile matters were a conimon occurrence with this particular detainee. A similar situation could have been the precipitation behind the photo on the Internet. The night of e a sou was t m to help with uardin of the Ira . Police were to keep them from talking In one anile and were tnerc as well When I arrived to the Ha a as the
person on site. c interrogators had been going on for 3-4 hours already. The dogs were being at time as well. There was one cell the dog went into. The dogs barked but as not cls enough to hurt the detainee. I do not remember who the interrogator was hut I do remember that the intcrprcicr a-The dogs were authorized before but by this time, any approval had to go through LTG Sanchez. During this panic r inci e , there was a sense of urgency to conduct simultaneous interrogations of tie police that had been identified as being involved and word circulated around that LTG Sanchez had givenblanket approval for somewhat harsher interrogation mctnods fur the police interrogations. (I did not sec any written blanket approval and do not remember any one individual specifically telling me that we had a blanket approval - it was Just accepted by all of us i During this time, there was an IP who was taken into isolation and into the shower mom to keep him away from the otherIPs. Her was lett there for about were directed to go back in with the IP. When we got to the cell, he was ta d one of the MPs ew a bucket of water to wake him up. I asked if this was necessary, he said
ted that the IP s alias ass and had to keep him awake. The IP was given a blanket to keep him warm.
also pertained to t occurred after the shooting incident, possibly two to three days after, where in a detainee bad a gun in his cell an it had t taken by force. We bad an informant (one of the detainees) who had tipped usto Iraqi police smuggling weapons and other contraband into the deumees so after the shooting incident, the Iraqi police ware
rounded up and put into cells. As ' • done, the informant pointed out which police anfirtolved and which were not. Ir. this parasol instance as working with a civilian interrogator I observed terrogating one Iraqiectoan and hemmed tureen comma into the cell and standing next to the detainee and standing outside the cell.rentle using the M as an inumidanon tactic with the detainee and would tell him to answer questions or he would bringk into the cell. At one point t his hands over the nose and mouth of the policeman, cutting off his air flow
an not allowing him to breathe. this Lasted for a ew seconds At er int his collapsible nightstick to push and possibly twist the policeman's arm causing some pain asked out o cell at one point he commented to methat lie knew how to do this without leaving any marks. Mit that statement I wondered why he eau say s h a
thing. I did not report the matter to anyone for two reasons. ust as an interrogator who knew the IROEs an as e SSG - therefore, both should have known whatwas allowed and what was not.
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Second, it was commonly understood that LTG Sanchez had given blanket approval for somewhat bars inter the Iraqi police as a result of the shooting incident. The interpreter wi was
(not specified) for use a a trig an Army Colone in
The last matter concerns treatment of a detainee who was accused of s
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the head (just wa ed up to on the street and shot him). The detainee was in an isolation cell and one or two MPs and a male dog handler with a leashed but unmuzzled dog outside the cell. The detainee was handcuffed to the cell door on the inside and the dog was allowed to jump up at the door and bark and snarl. The dog was on the leash at all times and was not allowed to get close enough to bite the detainee. I did not report this because it did not seem to be abuse. I do not remember the identify of any of the personnel involved. I mention these incidents at this time only as a result of reading and seeing pictures on the interne bringing the
matters to mind.
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