Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

Interviewee was assigned to AG on October 18/19, 2003 as an interrogator in the Detainee Assessment Branch.
Recalled an incident with [redacted], where he grabbed a detainee on the shoulder and move him within the interrogation cell.
Stated that he/she did not witness other incidents, but overheard conversations. Specifically, he/she recalled overhearing conversations of harsh physical treatment, including beating and detainees being placed in uncomfortable positions.

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Sunday, May 23, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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r LAST NAME, FIRST NAME. MIDDLE NAME 16. SSN 7. GRADE/STATUS
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500th Military intelligence Group, Camp Zarna, Japan

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— WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
I arrived at Abu Ghraib circa 18/19 October 2003 and am currently assigned there. During this period (18 Oct 2003 - 22 May
2004) I took rest and relaxation leave from 5-20 April 2004. From 18 October 2003 to 5 April 2004 1 was assigned as an
interrogator in the Detainee Assessment Branch (DAB) My duty in the DAB was as an interrogator. We served as the last part
of the interrogation process, conducting reviews of detainee interrogation files to evaluate detainees for release or continued
interrogation. As part of our review we would conduct detainee interviews as a final 'check" before making a recommendation.
Unlike interrogations, our interviews consisted of direct questioning. If a detainee was uncooperative he would not receive a
recommendation for release. Upon my return from leave circa 20 April 2004, until present, I was reassigned to the Interrogation
Control Element (ICE) to conduct detainee interrogations. I am a trained interrogator (97E); my military occupational specialty
for the past four years. Since my arrival in Abu Ghraib I received no formal training on local interrogation methodsrpolicieS,
interrogation rules of engagement (MOE) or proper detainee treatment. I do not recall receiving any training in Abu Ghraib on
the Geneva Conventions. I did receive a listing of IROE shortly after my arrival which I was asked to review and sign a
statement acknowledging I read and understood them. I was not provided any additional clarification on the IROEs. I fully
understood the IROE and that detainees should be treated humanely. While assigned in the DAB I Ose nc incident where I
an interrogation technique was inappropriate. I was teamed with a civilian CACI employee, L As a team,
d I t mg as the primary interrogator and observer. I don't recall his last name or any additional details
ar rrived at the DAB circa December/January 2003 and was partnered wi me. I only worked with him for 2-3 days he as reassigned to another interrogator in the DAB and the following wee departed Abu Ghraib. I believe that first arrIved in Abu Ghraib circa July 2003 and was assigned to the Joint Interrogation Detention C n (J1DC) as an interrogation screener before being moved to the DAB. ciii my second or third day of working wi th HE was conducting an interrogation and I was observing. I observe grab a detainee on the shoulder to move him within the interrogation cell. While his action did not harm the .detainee it conce I had been trained it is inappropriate to touch a detainee. At the conclusion of the interrogation-1 raised my concern however, he had a ng character, didn't believe I had any supervisory role over him, and didn't listen. While I can't recall his exact word -tolc' me something to the effect that if I was a real Amer an ' thMk his action wa 6:66 • • • te. I subsequently reported his touching of the detainee to my chain of comman NCOIC, DA:. j OIC, DAB) which I believe resulted in HIS rnov a new partner the foll wing day departure from • .0 Ghra • be following week; however I c 't e certain.
had me prepare]s e nt and she prepared one herse curnentiu our anion regardin
oth statements were provided I I was later told b tha _ had been counseled an'the IROE explained to , E still did not agree his actions were mai sr' 'nate I •o IO 0 • if our state sent forward fro tem but am not certain, that bo • . reported to Other than the one incident will never observed improper treat= .t or photos of detainees. did overhear conversatio of abusive behavior toward some etawees. Principally this occurred in a break area where CACI employees often congregated. I was not part of these conversations and do not recall who I overheard discussing the abuse or the specifics of any incident. It was general conversation which I recall concerned harsh physical treatment (beating, placing in uncomfortable positions). I have no knowledge of MI encouraging MPs to "soften up detainees."
Q: Do you have anything else to add to this statement?

A: No.
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