Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

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Parrived in Abu Gliraid. Iraq on 7 Nov 04 as a member of a five person analyst requirement from the 1st MI Ern. 205th MI Fide,
Weisbaden, GE. Upon our arrival. we were given a tour of the Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center ()IDC).
We w
briefed on the Rules of Engagement (IROE) and the Interrogation Rules of Engagement (/ROE) by the head of the hDC We-were told that anything above the /ROE was against the Geneva Convention. I also signed a memorandum sta g
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understood the IROE. The next day, the 1st MI Be personnel were assigned to their positions. I
was first assigned the to
Force Protection section and subsequently to a Special Pr _.ch itimately consisted of up to 10 TigerDuring my deployment I worked with three interrogators a CACI contract interrogator)(DJ) to CACI contract interrogator). On around 14 Dec 0 . Immediately_o tug the capture of Sadaana Hussein, was move
to the Special Project Team (SPT). The mission of the SPT was to interrogate important Iraqi personnel. Around 15 or 16 Dec
03, the Tiger /earns were called together about 2100 - 2130 by COL Pappas who told us that anything listed on the IROE
beenprc-approve • 1.50 Sanchez From the time I was moved to the SPT till the time I left Abu Ghraib, I worked w
un An Iraqi general_was assigned to us for interrogation_occasion, we were in the process of transferrin
from his cell to_ower facility._ccided to transpo_from his cell to the shower facility (which was justupstairs from his cell) in the nude._isted the MP's w cn cy tried to handcuff him and was wrestled to the groundand forcibly handcuff_Nothing s of note happened concerning this situation. On another occasion, when I went to the IAblock to sign ou_I observed four or five detainees, hooded with sandbags, handcuffed and lying on the floor outside of
cells. I asked what ey
were doing and was told by the MP guard that they were new arrivals who were awaiting cell.assignments. As I was standing there, one of the detainees tried to adjust the sandbag on his bead so he could see. The guard moved the detainee's hand aside and told the detainee "How many times do 1 have to tell you to stop trying to move your hood. If you do it again, you are really going to bate me." The guard mentioned that they were going to "break these guys in properly" and did 1 want to "watch the show'. I did not know what he meant and did not think anything about it. I did not observe any abuse of the prisoners at that time; nor did I 'mow the names of the MPs. Although I heard rumors, I never personally witnessed
an interrogator using a dog in the interrogation booth. Our team would occasionally walk a detainee past the MP desk where thedog handler would be stationed. This was not pre
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coordinated with the MP dog handler as the MP and dog were already
stationed at the point. I understood that in order to use this or any other procedure listed in the IROE, you had to have permission. Our team would discuss which procedure we were going to use, fill out a form, and submit it to the section leader., The section leader would then secure the appropriate level of authorization and then give us the authorization to proceed. I think the authorizations would go through COL Pappas to LTG Sanchez for approval. Our team used sleep deprivation on occasion; we were informed by ICE operations that the procedure had been approved, but I do not know at what level. After getting the approval, the MP's were in charge of making sure the sleep deprivation schedule was maintained. The methods the MP's used to keep the detainees awake included making them stand up while handcuffed to the cell door. The MP's would also on occasion play loud music in the cell to keep the detainee awake. I was in the lA and IR sections of the facility at least twice a day during by time at Abu Ghraib and I never witnessed any physical abuse or humiliation. I beard that on one occasion a detainee waswalked naked between camps as a form of humiliation, but I did not wimess this first hand.. ponce told a detainee if he did not cooperate during the interrogation that he would move him to an Isolation cell and make him wear ink underwear. This did
not occur and I did not observe any detainees wearing women's underwear. However from
way ioned it to the
detainee. 1 sort of had the impression that it might have been done at some time or another. _the reputation of being a
harsh interrogator and would give the detainee the impression that they should not mess witiltlrHe would start the interrogation process with new detainees by having them sit on the floor and tell them that they had to earn the privilege of being
allowed to sit in a chair by cooperating. I never saw him abuse or humiliate a detainee. I never saw _
use dogs in an
thterrogation. I left Abu Ghraib on 7 Feb04. Q: Is there anything you wish to add? A: N///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////END OF STATEMENT////////I//////_
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