Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

Interviewee worked in in-screeing and interrogation operations.
Recalled an incident at Camp Cropper Baghdad International Airport, where interrogators with teh 519th MI Brigade put a detainee in a stress position, he was on his knees with his arms stretched out to his sides.
Also recalled that at Camp Cropper "some detainees that were brought in by SEAL Team 5 and Task Force 20 . . . appeared to be very severely beaten . . . When we would inquire about their wounds, the SEALs/TF-20 members would provide a general 'they resisted' response. [Redacted] was responsible for recording these injuries, and wrote reports, I believe, on all such incidents."
Also, interviewee recalled a Nov 03 incident in which he observed a detainee stripped down to his underwear by an interrogator in the hard site.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2004
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Fort Leonard Wood, MO
Engineer Battalion. 3rd Combat Support Brigade, 95th Division,
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WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
, 3rd. Combat Support
a HUMINT Collection Interrogator (MOS 97E) currently assigned to the 1st Engineer Battalion (BN)and SIM (F fi I
95B (Military Police (MP)) ireghter).
Brigade (BDE). 95th Division. Fort Leonard Wood, MO. also bold MOS's
not actively worked the 97E MOS since then. I was
am also ,a Tagalog linguist. I was granted MOS 95B on 22 Nov 96, and I had
and was crossed level to B Co, 325th Military Intelligence (MI)
mobilized in MOS 97E for Operation Iraqi Freedom on 20 Feb 03. deployment training and
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BN. I reported to the B Co. 325 MI Bn at Fort Dix, NJ, on 20 Feb 03 and remained undergoing pre
integration into B Co. 325 MI Bn. I received classes on Interrogations techniques., interrogation approaches, report writing. combat operations, reaction drills, and weapons qualification. I departed Fort Dix on 21 Mar 03, and arrived at Camp Virginia,
Salad Airbase arriving at Salad
Kuwait. on 23 Mar 03. I remained at Camp Virginia until 29 April 03 when we convoyed toAirbase on 30 April 03. At Salad Airbase. I was busied with routine details and 1 did not participate in any interrogations or other
operational matters. On 17 May 03. 1 went to Camp Cropper at Baghdad International Airport (BIAP) where I worked
by the time I had
predominately in screening and interrogation operations. The 519th MI BN bad already set up operations there
littl e add. 5 19th
arrived at Cropper. There was only one interrogation incident that I witnessed at Cropper that I thought was a in a
The interrogawrs had the
interrogators' were interrogating a detainee who they believed was a Wahabbi extremist.
of
stress position down on his knees with his arms stretched out to both sides. 1 asked interrogators of the 519th
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the B1325M1 about it, but they stated that this was a normal technique. and 1 didn't think more of it. Other than • never saw any unauthorized Interrogation techniques or abuses. However, while at Camp Cropper. I was concerned about some detainees that were brought in by SEAL Team 5 and Task Force 20 that appeared to be very severely baa
inquire about their wounds, the SEALsn'F-20 members would provide a general "they resisted" response
-such incidents. I don't recall
responsible for recording theses injuries and wrote reports. 1 believe, on all unit, but 1 believe it was an Army Reserve unit from South Carolina. and I recall that he worked for the Department. On 12 Sep 03, about 15 members of the 325th transferred to Abu Garayb (AG), and 1 followed them arriving at AG
on 5 Oct 03 after closing down my operations at Cropper. When I arrived at AG, 1, as well as all other personnel, received classes
ment acknowledging that they had received andon Interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROE ed from the 66th MI Group as the ICEunderstood the 1ROE. It appeared to me that
trained personnel on a very clear IROE and
gne personnel.
N OIC had a clear training program for new
2 would not be used and that if someone
she clearly instructed that Interrogation techniques beyond those author' it It appeared there was no room for misunderstanding of the IROE. Whenwitnesses unauthorized techniques, th tcnuon and Interrogation Center (JDIC) Operations Officer who I arrived at AG, I was teamed up wi created and maintained targeting lists, and performed various otherwas already at AG. 1 worked special
In any interrogations at AG, although I did observe a few in the
funcuons in the operational area. 1 never pers.ona
t 15 Nov 03, I n laced the• problems. When the organic assets of the 325th departedbooths, b rtd bx the JDIC Ope rations -NCO1C, still working for
departing etainee availability,
arranging Interrogation f ms of
overseeing the vanous MIC sections (CM&D, Fusion Cell, Detainee Assessment Board (DAB). an
detainees Isolation and any requests for extensions of those detainees past the 30 day Wail. Whe

ose granted in FM
Interrogation Control Element (ICE) Officer-in-Charge (01C I would submit any requests for authors"carbon copy" me on those requests and I would track the status of Isolation detainees. My understanding was
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ent the requests directly to COL PAPPAS, the 205th MI BDE Commander, after mid Nov 03 when he movedth for LTG SANCHEZ's signature, prior to COL PAPPAS' residency at AG. I
perrnanen y , and possibly suet for the use of military working dogs, and to my knowledge, the use of dogs wasnever saw any requests from the IC all seeing some requests for "Sleep Deprivation", I do not recall seeing anynever approved while I was at A
or CJTF-7, and it
only provided me a couple of approvals from COL PAPPASapprovals for us use. However d have received them. While at AG, I never saw any physical abuse of
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r did anyone ever report any such abuse to me. I did hear rumors of one incident involving three wa old. who
of a female inmate who s not an MI H
late night 'unauthorized interrogation"enterd Cell Block 111
Following thc incident. of which I beard. In Jan 04, I was approached by CID during the course of their This is the only inciden e eviewed the IROE. but nothing was really put out to the Command about the incident.
investigation into detainees abuses at AG and showed mc photographs and videos of detainees and soldiers and asked me to identify
;toyindividuals in the photos/videos. Prior to that CID presentation. I bad never saw any unauthorized photographs or videos o[
military working dogs being used during M1 detainees, nor did I bear of any, nor did anyone ever inform me of any. 1 never saw just finished
naked in tbe bard site, but he had
interrogation operations. On only one occasion, 1 saw a detainee completely d I ever bear.
nor di de es any inmate in women's underwearton purposes
showering and he was not on display for humiliat an MP NCO. once told me that one of the detainees in
of anyone discussing it, nor did anyone ever report it to mc inmate dressed in f..... , ., ,es— Cell Block IA, second tier, like to wear women's undenvea , a , and , an
detainee.
There was only one incident that I heard of concerning striping a y was not cooperating ivi
tainee a underwear
re conducting an interrogation of a detainee in the hard site. the Camp Viand she had him strip down. I believe to his underwear, and then walke Ind oral AG. I as sometime in Nov 03 and it was ver / cold. I beard that both to .work for me in
. t oga ties;Both were permanently removed rauons by the time I bad
was assigned
" leave from 22 Nov to 15 ee t3 o • me a ut the incident, inquiring if I thought b would
moved to the Fusion Cell.
'que. Reprdinhim I thought he would, since e • participated in an unau
d been involved in 1 am shocked by their involvement was really a surprise since we
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worked fairly close toge 't really kno to have things
I was about When I artived at . things were pretty squared away: hied
about tum as
out of control. To answer MG Fay's question abouC'"what was g int on at AG".1 don't
under control. I didn't e r see ything shocked, and troubled with the incidents of abuse and the fact that some MI
really know why things went wrong. 1 am surprised; Air
soldiers did not report incidents they had witnessed. There is no doubt in my mind that all soldiers in the JIDC were briefed onth
I departed AG on emergency leave on 22 Jan
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