Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

Interviewee was assigned to AG from August 2003 to February 13, 2004 as a Human Intelligence Collector (97E) with the 519th Military Intelligence Brigade.
In his/her sworn statement, the interviewees stated that in "Nov. 03, I conducted an interrogation of an Iraqi General. Upon my initial meeting with the detainee, it was obvious he had been physically abused. I asked the detainee how he had sustained his injuries and he told me the MP's had beaten him up. He also said there were other Generals who were beaten up at the same time. I checked his information and found that he had been in the facility long enough that the injuries had to have been sustained during his time as a detainee. I also conducted another interrogation of an Iraqi General who also appeared to have been physically abused by the MP's. In both cases, the detainees did not know the names of the MP's involved in the abuse. Although I did not interrogate any other abused Iraqi General, there were reportedly three other Generals who claimed to be abused by the MP's."
The interviewee then recalled that on "Dec 03 I did witness the authorized use of a guard dog in an interrogation. The dog handler would let the guard clog get in close proximity of the detainee possibly without a muzzle so the dog could bark and frighten the detainee. I suspected they were not muzzled because of the volume of the barking. Although I was not a direct witness as the incident occurred in an interrogation booth, I did hear the dog in the booth with the interrogators and the detainee. I did hear the MP's make general comments from time to time something to the effect of 'give me five minutes with the detainee and he will start talking.'"
The interviewee also stated that on at least four occasions he/she witnessed detainees in the nude.

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Tuesday, June 15, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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A Company, 519th Military Intelligence Battalion, 525th Military Intelligence Brigade
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From the end of Aug 03 to 13 Feb 04, I deployed to Abu Griraib (AG), Iraq with A Company, 519th MI Bn. 1 am a 97E
Interrogator. I did not arrive with the other 519th MI Bn personnel as I was on emergency leave during the initial move into AG.
Upon my arrival to AG, I was briefed on the Interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROE), which established our authorized limits
concerning interrogation techniques. On at least two occasions as the IROE changed, I signed a memorandum stating I read,
understood, and would follow the IROE. The IROE made it necessary to.get authorization to do certain techniques and
approaches. I sat in on a couple of interrogations before I conducted interrogations on my own. I was not with the unit in
Afghanistan, so I can not site any differences between the AG IROE and the IROE used in Afghanistan. Certain techniques had •,
have written approval. The mechanism for this approval was the interrogation plan, which had to be done and approved prior to
any interrogation. The interrogator would request an approach in the interrogation plan and then submit it to their team leader
who would ensure the plan was approved. Over timethe authorization process evolved into requiring special written permission
use special interrogation methods like sleep deprivation I have had several requests to be interviewed by the New York Times.
concerning the possible MP abuse of several Iraqi Generals. In approximately Nov 03, I conducted an interrogation of an Iraqi
Ueneral. Upon my initial meeting with the detainee, it was obvious he had been physically abused. I asked the detainee how he
had sustained his injuries and he told me the MP's had beaten him up. He also said there wcrc other Generals who were beaten u
at the same time. I checked his information and found that he had been in the facility long enough that the injuries had to have
been sustained during his time as a detainee. I reported this information to my higher headquarters as well as included the inciden
in the interrogation notes. 1 also conducted another interrogation of an Iraqi General who also appeared to have been physically
abused by the MP's. In both cases, the detainees did not know the names of the MP's involved in the abuse. Although I did not
interrogate any other abused Iraqi General, there were reportedly three other Generals who claimed to be abused by the MP's. I
reported this intormation to the Criminal Investigati‘e Command (CID) in Ian 04. I have been contacted by the New York Times
on several occasions to provide additional information 1 have discussed this with my chain of command and have been advised tc
refer all inquiries concerning AG to the Army Public Affairs Office In Dec 03 I did witness the authorized use of a guard dog in
an interrogation. The -dog handler would let the guard clog get in close proximity of the detainee possibly without a muzzle so the
dog could bark and frighten the detainee. I suspected they were not muzzled because of the volume of the barking. Although I
was not a direct witness as the incident occurred in an interrogation booth, I did hear the dog in the booth with the interrogators
and the detainee. I did hear the MP's make general comments from time to time something to the effect of "give me five minutes
with the detainee and he will start talking. -I believe this type of comment to have been made only for humor value. On at least
our occasions 1 witnessed detainees in the nude. On these occasions I would go to the MP's and request a detainee for
interrogation. Upon arriving at their cell, they were na ccasion, the detainee had his clothes in his cell, but did not
have them on when I went to interrogate the detainee.
assisted me in this interrogation. After our arrival at the cell, the MP's instructed the detainee to put on his clo es and he v.
n escorted to the interrogation tent. On three occasions,
the MP's had taken the detainee's clothing away and the items were not available. Twice the detainees were given sheets to wear
during the interrogations and the other time an orange jump suit was provided. Instead of making the detainees walk across the
facility, we conducted the interrogations in the building. One interrogation was conducted in the shower area on the second level
and the others were conducted in the in the ell on the first floor The detainees were at times stripped during their
inprocessing and subsequent screening. was the NCOIC of the screening section and may have ordered the
detainees to remain stripped as a form o umiliauor,. t was a practice, especially for MI holds to take their clothes in a possible
attempt to renew the 'capture shock" of dewe w o ad been in US custody for an extended period of time or were transferred
trom other facilities. I did hear rumors that may have gotten a tittle too physical with a male apprehended as a
possible suspect for the 20 Sep 03 mortar attack whi tiled four US soldiers and injured several more. Other than the incidents
discussed above, 1 did not witness any abuse or maltreatment of detainees. I never witnessed nor heard of any MI person asking
or insinuating that an MP she d detainee. I never witnessed nor heard of any MP seriously offering to abuse a detainee i
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