Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

Interviewee was assigned to AG in early October as a the day shift Supervisor of Tier 1-3.
Stated that he/she was unaware of detainee abuse and photos until it was reported on TV.
Did recall, in mid-December "[o]ne day as I was walking the hard site, I saw in Tier 1 on the second floor, a two detainees on the ground facing down with only his stun, a bag over his head and naked below his waist I told my MP to cover him up and a blanket was placed over the detainee."
Also recalled the following incident, where he/she found "a tub in the middle of the hallway with wires coming out and going into a cell. I picked up the tub and there was a transformer there. I opened the cell and there was a huge radio and a naked detainee in the cell. The detainee was not in the open and was alone. I asked someone who the hell placed him there but no one knew."
Also noted, "[w]hen I would make my rounds in the morning I would find detainees in Tier IB without clothes. I would ask why they didn't have any clothes and I was told that they were that way before shift started. No names were given. I would have the MPs give them clothes. In the beginning, I did see detainees in the MI side with women's underwear and one with a suit covering his pnvate parts with two MRE containers. I did not understand it because when they came in from Vigilant, Gantt, or other places, they were clothed. I was told it was MIs way of making an uncomfortable environment in which helped with interrogations."

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5_LAST NAME FIR T k AME MIDDLE NAME 6 SSN
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372nd Military Police Company

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I arrived to Abu Ghraib in early October. 1 was assigned as the Dayshift Supervisor of Tier 1 through 3. _I had between 13-18
soldiers at any one time _And we had several responsibilities at Abu Ghraib. Tier IA belonged to MI for detainees of intelligence
value and Tier I B belonged to MPs for disciplinary from either Camp Cenci or Vigilant or for detain _d to
have a mental disability -__• with other detainees in general population of the bard site. _ as the
Nightshift Supervisor an_ was the NCOIC of the Tiers. I never witnessed or was mad _are o a_e
abuse, any photos or vi_s 0_lattices until I saw them on TV._I have no knowledge of dogs being used as a tool during
interrogations during the day shift or night shift. Canine were used for search during the handgun incident. _Do__• e brought in
and stood on the side and were barking. The day of the handgun there were many people in the hard cite. I sav _ho I had
never seen before there. There were many folks with civilian clothes. One day a dog handler came in and aske _could walk
the dog through the hard site. _I told him fine but not to go where the prisoners were and stay in th _.. •_._
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interrogation techniques used, I saw a lot of yelling but never any hands laid on a detainee. _MI like ,_ use he
would get in the detainees face, but I never witnessed or heard of him touching a detainee. _During ._of iu • • se idgun

incident ICOs (Iraqi Correction Officiers) where gathered up and suspected corrupted ICOs where identified by Military Police and
where stripped search in the Iraqi Police supervisor office. _This event happened during the night shift and I had no say so during
this shift._I didn't really interact with Ml due ti) the fact of other obligations and MI showed only to pick up or drop off a detainee.
The only things out of the ordinary that I can recall were about the "ghost" detainees dropped off by Other Government Agencies"
i OGA ). These detainees were dropped off but were nut given a detainee number or logged in. The personnel dropping them off
had no name and brought them in at about 0400 in the morning _One day as I was walking the hard site, I saw in Tier 1 on the
second floor. a two detainees on the ground facing down with only his stun, a bag over his head and naked below his waist. _1 told
my MP to cover him up and a blanket was placed oser the detainee. _I spoke to the OGA there and the detainee was taken to the
interrogation room in one of the showers. The OGA there was wearing civilian. clothes, had no facial hair, Caucasian, medium
built, name unknown. The interpreter on site was a short round man with reddish beard. This occurred in mid December. The
other incident I witnessed was when the ICRC was visiting and I was counting them. There was a tub in the middle of the hallway
with wires coming out and gni:1g into a cell._I picked up the nib and there was a transformer there. _I opened the cell and there was
a huge radio and a naked detainee in the cell. The detainee was not in the open and was alone. I asked someone who thc hell place
him there but no one knew. When I would make my rounds in the morning I would find detainees in Tier IB without clothes. 1
would ask why they didn't have any clothes and I was told that they were that way before shift started. _No names were given._I
would hive the MPs give them clothes. in the beginning. I did sec detainees in the MI side with women's underwear and one with
a suit covering his pnvate pans with two MRE containers. _I did not understand it because when they came in from Vigilant,
Gantt, or other places, they were clothed. _I was told it was Mrs way of making an uncomfortable envir _ent in w_h helped
with interrogations._(This event occurred during the Company's OJT process with the 72nd MP CO wi _d the
NCOIC (unable to remember name) prior to taking over as shift supervisor)._I never witnessed or was a_ g an MP
to -sotten-up" or give "the treatment" to an MP nor do I feel that they would of ask me due to possible refusal of an unlawful
request._MI would tell us to •_ce_articles of chlothes (Jumpsuit), the maures,s, or put them in sleep deprivation. They were
a civilian interrogator, stands out in my mind.__always lett with some clothing._He never spo • . n_.is avo_. 'dine. When_ d w d we • el m the ni ,_, s_...6 iimendes_ to re_ on tier 1._ent t_ and asked tha__,. remo_1• 0 ii Is .1 ..1 t shift.
ha_called fur a medic to see a ttEtatnet claiming to have the _v s a or"aa sleep management schedule in
c_the medic_scribed medicine and the de •_ off of the sleep plan. This detainee was known t_mart con_ got mad because he said interrupted the My impression was._did not wan_ on the night shift becau would not do wha _
anted. There were some_owns between MPs_er IA fell under MI control_t we ha_to monitor the sleep plans an_implement MI's plan's with de_'_s They should have been the ones who monitored their prisoners. The only two Ml personnel that I really dealt with were
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TEMENT (C They would come in and cbeck on detainees. The interpreter that 1 can remember the most was Site about three times a day. He was the one we could use to speak to the security detainees
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be bad a clearance. We had an impression be was a homosexual. We =By didn't know what MI's procedures were.
(Ml meaning OGA and military). I had asked for the Interrogation Rules of Engagement and a MI liaison to work side by sideer got them. Once the new unit came on hoard. Things got a lot better between MI and MPs. MI
with MP on theawho would notify us of detainees' arrival and departures and would keep the MPs up to date with
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