Interviewee was assigned to AG from October 7-21, 2003 as a member of the Mobile Training Team.
Interviewee noted, "I did see detainees in various states of dress to include nakedness and detainees. The MPs used segregation and stripping as a way to keep the detainees under control and to keep them from talking. . . .On one occasion, I had a conversation with [redacted] concerning the IROE and interrogation approaches. I gave him examples of approaches including Pride and Ego Down where an interrogator took a Koran, threw it on the floor and stepped on it and Fear Up harsh where the interrogator had a a dog trained to bark on cue if the interrogator thought the detainee was lying. I also explained sleep deprivation. I told him that in Afghanistan the interrogators could use an adjusted sleep schedule for detainees. The conversation was meant to explain why these activities were prohibited or restricted."
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Vial From 7 - 21 Oct 03, 1 was at Abu Ghraib (AG), Iraq as part of a five person Mobile Training Team (MTT) from Fort Huachuca.. AZ. The mission of the team was ID provide an overall assessment of interrogation operations, training and advice and
interrogations observing and
assistance. My focus was interrogation operations. I spent time with e m
We were also provided a tour 01 providing immediate feedback. Upon our arrival at AG, we were greeted b
the facilitv. The team spent the first couple of days seeing up, conducting an assessment o the operations and establishing a training schedule based on the assessment. The training lasted five days and encompassed various aspects of interrogation operations. Throughout our time at AG the interrogators remained open and receptive to the training and subsequent advice and assistance. The training Included the TIGER TEAM concept which had been very effective in interrogation operations at GTMO.
Wnen we cot there, the interrogators had already started to employ this technique as the analysts participated in the .
interrortaions. After the training. I spent the rest of the time skiM the interrogator teams. I sat in on approximately four
Interrogauons and indirectly observed several more. Throughout our time at AG the MTT would get together at night to discuss
to ermance ine training schedule as there were several civilian connact
Iinuoigs alai rc,:ciiiirnclaclatiOrLs 1t e also eonunuedinterrogators scheduled to arrive at AG. The Intelligence Rules of Engagement ([ROE) was posted and was very aunilar to the IROE used in Afghanistan. During my observauon of interrogation operations, the 519th demonstrated experience and dedication to the mission. I did have concerns with the newly arriving contract interrogators. We did not have the opportunity to work wita them or provide any training. Some interrogators were not actively using approaches, they more or less utilized direct they cave up The interrogations were not conducted in a timely manner. In some
quesucntrc, and when that did not work,
cases. when an interrogator picked an approach. he would not plan it out and get guidance from the team leader prior to the
interrocation. 'Fney were also not using their interpreters effectively There was a set level for approval on the various
approaches and techniques. Most techniques required a vers specific written plan with a schedule and parameters. The MP's
apoeared to ie in control and professional. I did see detainees in various states of dress to include nakedness and detainees
der control and to keep them from
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wear•nz towels Tne MP's used segregation and stripping as a
When we entered the cell, the
talliiinLo (Jr. one occasion. 1 participated in an interrogation wit
detainee was wearing a tow waist. After the interro anon, as he was going to get the
ppeared to be a motivated'
' old me he would'talk to the MP's.
detainee his clothes pack.
and enthusiastic interrogator who seerne to understand the concept of intelligencentaterrogapons. never saw him lose control u s during an interrogation and he took advice and assistance well. On one occasion. I had a conversation with oncernmg the 1ROE and interrogation approaches I gave him examples of approaches including Pride and ^Ego own v..• ere and interrogator took a Koran. threw it on the floor and stepped on it and Fear Up Harsh where the to bark on cue if the interrogator thought the detainee was lying. I also explained steep
interrogator had a do g_ chedule for detainees. The conversation
deprivation I told him that in Afghanistan the interrogators could use
appeared to understand. There wuswas meant to explain why these activities were prohibited or restricted.
ring my time at AG, I did not witness any abuse or
it:tease pressure from the command to provide intelligence reporting.
maltreaunent of detainees. I never witnessed nor heard of an) MI person asking or insinuating that an MP should abuse a
detainee I never witnessed nor heard of any MP offering to abuse a detainee to assist interroeation operations. I never
witnessec nor heard of any piard dogs being used during Interrogations.
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