Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

Interviewee was in AG on or around December 20, 2003.
Recalled hearing unusual sounds coming from the segregation hole in the isolation wing. Recalled hearing the detainee being hit or falling. Stated he/she and [redacted]were uncomfortable with what they heard.
Also discussed his/her detainees' being on an approved sleep-meal management program.

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Interview
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Tuesday, June 22, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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ADDRESS
CACI, Abp Glaraib Correctional Facility, Abu Ghraib, lract, APO AE 09335
to make the following Statement under onh:

I. want
Inct ent with hearing unusual sounds coming from the Segregation Hob in isolationanon that
conclusion of an interro was returned into custodyabout 20 DEC 03. After
in the stairwell of Segragation. The detainee
received by the two MP's, the interrogation tcar .
A er the detainee was
detainee. The detainee was bein placed into the Segregation Hole according walke•cad of the MP's and
the approved interrogation plan and the sound of the detainee g falling or possibly being struck was heard.
out of the facility and closed the door. Bothto interro ation team looked back and the MP's were coming
what was the sound as we walked up the steps to the MP
T e
ch other an
and I loo ,felt very uncomfortable with what had
and
he was in between section
office area. Both of us cared on e second deck,
heard and when the two MP's returned to the MP office are with the
that
the MP's. The reaction at
alpha and bravo, we co but I can't recall the exact words of his
id reply to our questioning.
comment or suggestion.
not happy. Explanation of an approved interrogation plan. When an
Statement, other than he was of Engagement (IROE) is requested by an
interrogation plan outside the approved interrogation Rules . • • However, in

Pa•us and
interrogator, the •Ian must be reviewed and a. 'roved by Col Torn a royal. In response
off: ce 01 eneral Sanchez for direct
some circumstance, this approval must go up to the f
trey en o a etamee. Thfollowing is a description of the
roved
to questions by the investigator and the spect terogating was pl
in
process of an ongoing interrogation. A detainee that I am actively required for
and detailed rules
the In terms of what I have Used recently over a 25 day period of time to int
of
implementation erro
detainee. In this case, the detainee is provided with 4 hours of sleep per 24 hour period. The c

any configuration and needs to be written out in detail for each day 'his sleep!/wake program can be divided in COL Papus and Jag. In this example, the final and approved through the appropriate chain of command, OIC,
hour program recently used, the
approving authority was COL Torn Papus. To elaborate on a typical 72 sleep/meal management portion cannot continue more that can nsecutive hours. At which point, a 12 hour
During a typical SMMS program,
2continue.
uninterrupted sleep session is mandatory, before the program

the MP's are responsible for administering the written program provided by the interrogator. A copy of the
record in the office, during the duration of the session.
detailed, written program that they receive and keep on
alpha wing or responsible for the section are verbally briefed about the
• In all cases, the NCO managing the (background). In
I program, the details of the program, the detainee and intelligence value of the detainee
time period of anapproved SMMS program, the MP's
that during the awake
I addition. the MP's arc advised
necessary to ee the detainee awake m the allotted period of time as long it adheres
vial
are allowed to do what is
to approved rules of engagement

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conform to properproper treatment of the detainee. Forexample, this current detainee does noi iikt. io grooming standards. So, I've referred to the MP's to give the detainee his special treatment. This is to include, showering of the detainee (not excessively) daily if necessary, having the detainee brush his teeth and the maintaining of .short hair and no facial hair. Hence, the MP's are not directed when and how this is to be administered, but that it can be used to keep the detainee awake when the detainee is more prone to sleep.
Q. Have you ever had an incident where one of your detainees was bruised or complained of being
assaulted by any of the guards?
A. No.
Q. Have you ever verbally requested one of the guards to assault one of your detainees?
A. No. or heard any other type of suspicious incidents that would indicate abuse of the prisoners besides
Q. Have you seen
what you have listed in the above statement?

A. No.
Q. Do you know of any type of pictures that show abuse of detainees?
A. No
Q. Do you have anything else to add to this statement concerning the matten under investigation?
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WITNES S ES Subsumed and sworn to before me. a person authorized by Law to administer oaths. this 21" day of January. 2004 at Abu Ghralb. Irat APO AE 0933S.
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