Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

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Interviewee was assigned to AG in early October 2003 as a CACI Interrogator.
Recalled the use of sleep management/deprivation. Recalled an occasion where a dog was present during an interrogation, but stated it was not planned.

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Interview
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Tuesday, April 27, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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13 Abu Ghraib, Iraq, APO AE 09335 7. GRADE!S1ATuS
1. LOCATION 2004/04/2
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E. ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS
CACI, Abu Ghraib Correctional Facility, Abu Ghraib, Iraq, APO AE 09335
WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
Ghraib, I was given a pretty good orientation
in early October 2003. When I first arrived to Abu I do not
I was assigned Engagements (IROE) and we all signed the IROEs.
riefed the Interrogation Rules of arrival. After the one day orientation, Iof Abu Ghraib. .
remember receivtraining or information on the Geneva Convention at the time of felt a level o conducted a one hour right seat ride. One of the tactical HU MINT Teanis had to depart and I was thrust to work
level Iinterrogator
discomfort being thrown into interrogations immediately alter my arrival and made a point of taking asenior
arrived, the situation changed with
first e al interrogations for observation. After the first seven CACI contractors the
into alb I know ethat COL PAPPAS as i
personnel into the job. I really do not know who was in the Interrogation Co

thrusting as in charg of
aware of his role or who was in charge. I knew that
area but L Pap permanently relocated to Abu Ghr
really wasn't an issue as to who was in charge overall un
ho was at Abu Ghraib when I arrived, worked in the area but I did not know what his specific duties were.
ought he made a lot of things happen, but the JIDC warrants made things happen from an operationa per
gs were a mess when I first arrived. The living conditions were horrible, the morale was low, we worked long
hours, we really didn't have enough support equipment like omputers. In November, COL PAPPAS became the FOB

•res. Sometime in
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Commander. I found out by word of mouth. I ha as stripped downwhen being November, t 01001us at Camp Vigilant, a detainee escorted by ee was being escorted from
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return to Camp Vigilant andonly had a blankenhat was held in hi 3-I
the HardSite to Camp Vigilant. I reported the incident and the commander took disciplinary action. I believe she received an
provided. There was a time when I and the lead
article 15but not sure what the out come of the sworn statements that were
a suspicious sounds coming from the detainees cell after the completion of an interrogation and the detainee
cryo atorheard r being
was in positive control of the MP's. The lead interrogato rand I confronte ho both questioned about what we had beard. I presented thi410 the chain of command, e investigation co D. I don't the ICE/OPS. I found out there had been photos taken of
work in took the photos or who was responsible for the actions. I have never known of any MI personnel tell the
know who specificly
MPs to "Soften up" a detainee. There was special treatment conducted this was sleep management or give them a showeron a
regular basis due to poor hygcn standards. The approved sleep management program was provided to the MPs for
unplementationand the MP's were continously reminded that they need to make sure that they adhere to there rules of engagement. The sleep management was approved by COL PAPPAS The interrogation plan had to be approved by the ICE. Anything outside of the IROE had to be approved by COL PAPPAS and JAG and then sent up for approval to the general officer
time when dogs were used during an interrogations but it wasn't planned or request:. The MPs were
level. There was a

inspecting the cells in the segregation area and the dogs were accompanying them and as a result of a detainee not liking the military working dogs, the detainee was aske a couple of questions and nothing amounted as aresult and the MP's continued on with the cell inspection. 1 requested the use of dogs once for the special projects teams, but it was never approved and the interrogation never occured. There were really no mutual rules of engagements for the MPs and MI andstill do not know what th
rules of engagement were forthe MP's during that period of umel.
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