Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

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Interviewee was assigned to AG from August 21, 2003 to March 29, 2004 as a member of Internal Reaction Force.
Stated that he/she witnessed and reported two incidents (the events were not described).
Observed "several instances of both MPs giving physical training sessions to detainees as punishment measure to include what is called 'rocking,' whereby the detainee is made to kneel on gravel or rocks as a control measure."
Also, observed "excessive" yelling.

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Friday, May 27, 2005
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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During ou7tra n upat Abu Ghraib (AG) from 21 Aug 03 until 29 Mar 04. I had two week mid-tour leave in October 03.
was all according to the
prior to deploying to Kuwait and Iraq we had some training in 1)W/detainee handling measures, and it
It did not entail Geneva Convention; however, I am aware of Geneva Convention guidelines from previous

training manual. However,
At AG we did not have any formal introduction, orientation or training provided by personnel already there.
training.
I was not required to read anywe did continue some of the train up that we had previously conducted in CONUS and in Kuwait.
however, after I was there for a while I did hear that some rules had changed and requiredInterrogation Rules of Engagement: At one point, during a period
some sort of specific approval My primary duty at AG was on the Internal Reaction Force (IRF).
when we were exceptionally short of NlPs. I spent just under two weeks doing escort duty to bring detainees to and from
interrogation sites. Other than the two cases of abuse for which I provided a statement to CID, I did. not observe or become
aware of any instances of abuse or humiliation of detainees. I did not see or become aware of any unauihoriLed photos or videos

I did see several instances of both MPs giving physical training sessions to detainees as a punishment measure, toof detainees.
For a while after
include what is called "rocking" whereby the detainee is made to kneel on gravel or rocks as a control measure.
I don't consider either the physical training or yelling
I arrived, I also observed both NIPs and MI personnel Yelling at detainees.
to be abuse, however personally and professionally 1 do not feel that it either is necessary. The yelling is definitely wrong for the
MPs, but I do not consider it to be abuse. It might be an approved or accepted interrogation technique, but seemed excessive in

that the interroeators always had interpreters there to translate exactly what was said and yelling should not be required. We
conunuously reported the yelling and handling procedure incidents to our chain of command and after a while it seemed to stop,

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or at leas: I was no longer observing it.
the other folks did not want much to do with us. Q. Is there anything you wish to add? A: o

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