Interviewee was assigned to AG as a Member of the Military Intelligence Group (dates unknown).
Recalled seeing MPs make detainees perform physical exercise, while yelling at them. This occurred either before a detainee was interrogated, but it also occurred at random hours at night.
Interviewee was aware of MPs taking pictures of detainees. Recalled detainees being naked.
Recalled an incident where a detainee threw his feces; MPs made him take a cold shower, then roll in the dirt and air dry naked, then shower in cold water again (the MPs laughed and yelled at the detainee during this incident).
Recalled seeing an MP slap a detainee. The detainee refused to continue doing physical exercises.
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discussed with the MP's what their SOP was for detainee treatment. They informed me thatWhe.i I began working the night shift I clear to
made clear to them what i was and wasn't allowed to do or see. I made
they had no SOP I informed them of my IROE and
and they can handle buisness how they see fit, however i follow different rules and i asked
them that their prison was their prison
them to respect the fact that i have to follow those rules. I am good friends with the MP's that work at this detention facility and
what level of knowledge i want to have concerning this detention
they trust mc. I also am very specific with those MP's as to
facility. I didn't sec any acts of torture or mistreatment. The MP's did prepare prisoners prior to interrogations by haveing them do
and his cooperativeness
physical exercises and yelling at them. The interrogators would verbally discuss, with a MP, a detainee
detainee such as physical exercise at random hours of the night and yelling. I was aware that
and various methods to deal with a
some MP's were taking pictures of detainees and had them on their computers. I have seen detainees naked. When a detainee threw
his feces, the MP's had him take a cold' shower then roll in the dirt outside then stand until he was dry then they showered him in
was naked he was laughed at and yelled at. I have seen an MP slap a detainee. When a
cold water again. When the detainee
as punishment then refused to continue after given a rest a MP encouraged him to continue.
detainee was doing physical
eXerCISCS
Q. What does IROE
A. Interrogation Rule of Engagement
Q. What shift did you work on'
first week After that we moved to night shift.
A. When I first got here I worked day shift for the
How much time did vou spend in the Isolation area during the night shift?
Q. On average it would be two hours. Some nights longer
B7Cd.
A It depended on bow many detainees we had in the isolation
depended on the interview.
Q Where did the interrogations occur"
A. in the showers, stair well, or property room
Was there any MP's present during the interrogations'
Q
A. No
Were the detainees clothed or unclothed during the interrogations?
Q
A. During all mine they were
Q. Is rernoing the clothing of Lie detainee a M1 Interrogation tactic?
ought it shout dhave been more specift:d.
d net app
A. I used it on one interrogation and my Team
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Statements were taken and it was brought up to
Q What was the outcome or?
A I was moved out of the Tiger Team and placed in Operations.
Q What is a Tiger Team?
A It is an interrogator and an analysist.
d or the tu ft.1
Q.-Who were the MP's
These are the ones that I saw mostly working.
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that struck the detainee
A
Q 'ho else was present w oc red?
if
A Two other Aletainees might have been there I can not remember who else was there. I am really unsure
as even .
\strike the detainee ?
Q How many times dt
A Just once with a open hand.
Q
Who was the detainee"'
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ark hair.
He had a be
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strike, push to the floor, punch, kick or slap any otherDid you se
Q
detainee?
A. No. \posing detainees in sexual positions at any time?
Did you see
Q
A. No.
engaged in sexual intercourse with detainees in theDid you see
Q
isolation area'!
A. No.
engaged in sexual intercourse with anyone else in the
Did you se
Q.
isolation area?
A. No.
Q. Was there anyone in the isolation area that was not authorized?
A. No
Q. What time did you shift start in the isolation area?
A It started about 2200 to 0800.
Q Were pictures taken of the detainees in the isolation area?
anyone, but there were cameras in the area. 1 know
A. Yes, i believe so. I never saw
they took pictures_,of me in the area
Q. Did you ever seel.fie, kick, punch, ppush to the floor, andlor slap
detainees?
A. No.
Q Were you present at any time when detainees were beaten?
A Other than the one slap, No.
Q Did you punch, slap, kick, push to the floor, and/or jurnp on detainees?
A. No.
Q Did you see anyone else punch, slap, kick, push to the floor, and/or jump on
detainees?
A Just the slap and then they are transporting detainees.
Q What was the uniform for your team to the isolation area?
A We would were DCU's without nametags.
Q. Did you observe pictures of the detainees in sexual positions?
A. 1 saw a screen s______ r a computer that was up in the isolation area. The screen ed in a pyramid
save had detain
Q Do you know who took the picture'
A. No
Q. Do you know whose computer it was?
A. No
Q. Do you know who the detainees were?
A. No. All you saw was Asses.
Q Did you see other soldiers who were not MP's in the isolation area after hours?
A. Just other Ml soldiers,
Q Were you involved in any abuse of the detainees?
A No.
Q. Were you present for any of the abuse against the detainee?
A. Only the slap.
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