Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview of Platoon Sergeant, 372nd Military Police Company, 4th Platoon re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Facility

Interviewee was the Platoon Sergeant for the 4th Platoon of the 372nd Military Police Company, he/she arrived on October 1, 2003.
Recalled hearing about a soldier take a female detainee into the wood shack, but did not recall the specifics of the incident.
Did not recall seeing abuse, humiliation or use of dogs.
Did attest to sandbagging detainees.

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Interview
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Monday, April 5, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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CAMP VICTORY, BAGHDAD, IRAQ
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SFC
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372ND MILITARY POLICE COMPANY, CUMBERLAND, MD (DEPLOYED TO IRAQ)
, WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:

I arrived at Abu Ghraib on 1 October 2003. I was the platoon sergeant for 4th platoon that was part of the 372nd MP Co. When
we first arrived to Abu Ghraib, our focus was to get the logistical Support Area up. Our living area had been destroyed. We also
conducted a right seat ride with the 72nd MP CO. I didn't have any involvement with MI personnel until I became the Hard Site
NCOIC. I interacted with the MI personnel reference detainees. The MI personnel would tell us what detainee number they
wanted. We would ask them if they wanted the detainee handcuffed in the front, back or not at all. Did we need to place a sand
bag over their heads when we took them out? The reason for the sand bag we were told was to prevent detainees from seeing who
ut and who was being held. MI did not tell us what treatment was acceptable. A month into the job, I met
was c in
with Rules but she went
I asked her what she expected the MPs from MI. She was going to e back wi
with s might
returned. COL PAPPAS was in charge of the MI unit, but I dealt with n Both
on leav an also we t t.
have had. He was the Liaisnot sure if he was the liaison officer) between the MPs an of things done. He would come to the Hard Site to check on detainees (Nye es, rt'poncr who were sort of nsidered under the witness protection to make sure they were being taken cared of. I never saw any MI personnel abuse a detainee in any way. I heard something about an MI person taking a female detainee to the wood shack where they interrogated personnel but I did not have the specifics and I do not remember who told me. This incident occurred before we took over the Hard Site during the 72nd MP Co's time. I have no knowledge or ever saw MI personnel use dogs during the interrogations. I don't know of any MI personnel taking photos or videos of any detainees. No one came directly to mc about MI telling MP personnel to "soften up" or give "the treatment" to detainees but I heard rumors about it. I do not remember whom I heard that from. The only incident I know about is wh Other Government A en rsonnel brought in a detainee who
Apparently this detainee was
appeared to be beat up. The OGA personnel stated tha
detainee was placed in the showe
resisting arrest and was sitting on a pile of explosives. The detainee came in pretty beat up.
(where interrogations occurred). His hands were handcuffed to his back to the window. The window went about half way up to
to a blood clog
his back. The detainee died in the cell. An autopsy was conducted and it was confirmed that the detainee died
au u . • a .11. about this incident. MI
in his head. ere was an investigation conducted by CID. The c •
ame might be spelled di erent) is the one
GA CID were all there and aware of the situation who knows ut this event. There were detainees who were strip. • . t• err un• rwear but that was their choice. If it were too hot, they would strip themselves down to their underwear. Once it got cold they would put on their clothes. When we took over, the only underclothes we were provided by CPA was women underwear. If detainees didn't have anything to wear, we would give them the women underwear to wear because that was the only thing we had available. We had a delivery of men's boxers arrive
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one time but only 100 were delivered for approximately 600 de..ices. Other MPs w. worked in the Hard Site and .. •
or have witnessed what happened the Soli Wing ar A N t shift (afte
OIC da ,
ansferred to road duty), IA NCO day s
Medical leave right now, A/1 Guar
IAJIB Guard dayshift, 1B Guard
as off. Unless specified MED or , all
has been FRAD - nightshift en
other soldiers shout conda with the 372nd MP o.
Q. Do you have anything else to ad to this statement'?
A. No.
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