Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview of Human Intelligence Interrogator re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib Detention Facility

Interviewee was assigned to AG on October 19, 2003 as a Human Intelligence (HUMINT) Collector/Interrogator assigned to the Military Intelligence Group.
Interviewee recalled a number of incidents. In the first incident, a MP Officer was escorting a detainee down a flight of stairs and the detainee appeared to trip and fall down the stairs, the detainee was handcuffed, leg-shackled and hooded.
In the second incident, the interviewee arrived to the hard site and saw [redacted] "roughly" place a sandbag over a detainee's head and "roughly" pull the detainee into the hard site. The men then threatened to strip the detainee, but [redacted] intervened and the detainee's clothes were returned.
In a third incident, the interviewee witnessed a MP Dog Handler, with his dog, and a MP enter the cell of juvenile detainees, one named 'Casper.' "The kids were screaming, the smaller one hiding behind [redacted]. The handler allowed the dog to get within about one foot of the kids. Afterward, I heard the Dog Handler say that he had a competition with another Handler to see if they could scare detainees to the point they would defecate."
Recalled going to visit a detainee and seeing bites on his thighs, when asked by the interviewee what happened, the detainee said that the dog bit him, "started to cry, and asked to be sent back to Iran."
Interviewee also recalled a GTMO Team member told him/her that they were authorized to strip a detainee completely naked in the interrogation booth. Recalled instances of walking through the hard site and seeing detainees without jumpsuits and recalled seeing detainees in women's underwear. Also recalled someone reporting to him that OGA violated the isolation limit rule.

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Monday, May 24, 2004
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I ant a Human Intelligence (HUMINT) CollectoriInterrogator (MOS 97E) assigned to B Co, 66th Military Intelligence (MI) Group, Darmstadt, Germany, currently attached to the 202nd MI Battalion (BN) at Abu Gurayb (AG), Iraq. I deployed to Kuwait along with 11 other 66th MI Group personnel on 15 Oct 03. 1 amved at AG on 19 Oct 03. I was on a Rest and Relaxation leave from 5 to 25 Apr 03. Upon arrival at AG, we received a briefing concerning the breakdown of AG operations, the Tiger Team configuration being used at AG, and Interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROE). I read the IROE slide and nothing, other than the presence of military working does, surprised me. We were then split up into various sections and paired up with interrogators who were already
ation on 21 Oct I can not recall my first section leader because itexperienced with AG operations. I conducted my first In hile I was assigned to ection. I then moved towas for only about a week. My second section leader was I predominate y worked with interpretethe Special Projects Team and my supervisor wa
%tie with A Section. I was paired up. with a staff sergeant om the Guantanamo nown as., personally observed three incidents which I believe were incidents ofAlba, name
1 provided this Information in a sworn statement to Army CID on 21 an 03 (CID File Numberuetainee abuse.
nt. The first incident was what I believed at the time0003-04-CID 149-83130), and more details can he found 1 that sw ight of stairs in the AGto be an accident when a Military Policeman (MP) name -as escorting a detainee do
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hard site. The detainee was hand-cuffed, leg-shackled, an ad a sandbag over his head. A
the.stairs, the inmate appeared to trip and fall on the stairs This - ncident was reported
b The second incident also involve nd a co crating detainee named

was a Lebanese natio a raised in Syria. ho resided in either Ganci or Vigilant, requested
iso no, apparen v c• erncd for his safety because he was coopera g vvi Coal on For s. When I arrived at the hard site with
-iced is this your guy?" and roughly put a sand bag ove ead d he an o pull him roughly

as doing.
,into the r sI e. was caught of guard by the harsh treatment. but then intervene an asked wha
en took the
ouded with something to e effect " s the one of the good guys''. When said he was cad and calmed down. en said that he was going to stri not have a jump an iv Officer-in-Charge (SIC), an • tervened to
suit to..issae irn. I notified main my etainee and he never mentioned any fur •cr abuse a ter,this incident
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incident occurred in late Dec or wr v Jan 04 and involved a reluctant Baath Party General Officer named SU
The inclI had a sleep management plan which was approved by COL PAPPAS (205th MI BDE Commander). was inknow as
o f e hard site, which was the area of the hard site dedicated to female and juvenile detainees. I had
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held in the shower arca of 1B when I witnessed an MP guard and an MP Working Dog Handler with his dog enteredTS. I do not
know either of their names, however, investigators showed me digital photographs this day of an MP Working Dog Handler. The
MP Handler involved in the incident was the same as the MP Handler in digital photographs numbered as 01961CCi LAPS, 0094/CG
LAPS, and 0213 CG LAPS. The dog was a large, black, breed which appeared to be a mix of Labrador Retriever and Belgian
Sheppard. It was the only black working dog at AG. The do was cu)a leash, but was not muzzled. The MP guard and MP Dog
Handler opened a cell in which two juveniles, one known as "Casper" were housed. The Dog Handler allowed e dog to enter the
cell and go nuts on the kids, barking and searing them_ The Fids were screaming. the smaller one hiding behind The
Handler allowed the dog to get within about one foot of the kids. Afterward, I heard the Dog Handler say that he ad a competition
with another Handler to see if they could scare detainees to the point that they would defecate. He mentioned that they had already
made some urinate, so they appeared to be raising the cornpention. This happened about 0100 and I returned to my quarters for the
night. 1 for t about reporting it the next day and did not remember it until the CID investigators came to talk to my in Jan 03.
Incidentally ied in the mortar attack on Abu Garayb on Apr 03. I never witnessed, nor ever heard of anyone
taking unau e p rap or videota of detainees. I never heard anyone talking about "softening up" detainees in

rom the GTMO Team that 1 was permitted as the interrogator to strip "'•preparation for interrogations. I was told by
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I never used this technique personally. The only incident levera detainee completely naked in the interro.
of involving such a technique in . I do not have any first hand knowiedge of that inciden and said that he had used them previously, although he WAS unclear if Med
told we that I could use working .I
sot know of any instance in which dogs were used as an interrogation technique.
, • ... at GTMO or AG. • I never d do.. I spent considerable 'mown of time in the hard site area talking to
never questioned the veracity o. rt. While them, I would occasionally see inmates without jump sus standing indetainees and gtving them agouties, building .by the MPs that they did not have enough jump suits for all the detamees. I did
their cells. I inquired about this and was .T
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see some detainees iiwomen's underwear, but this appeared to be by.Cell Block I $ of the hard site housed the female detainees, the hard site
was not enough men's underwear to go around. Since received shipments of women's underwear and apparently had extra reserves that were offered to the males as better than nothing at
detainee". I know that there are OGA detainees that were off
all. I bad few dealings with OGA and do not know the term 'ghost to sae them. violating the
limits for Army interrogators and that some OGA &Timms have waited for months for OGA interrogators
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.I suggested that he be extended in Isolation due to his mental '.Iranian name
gotten into a fight in Ganci for no a arent reason and continued to show a tendency toward violence while in isolation It was
while his cell was being searched.. I went to check on
had been bitten b police.
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to cry, and asked to be sent back to Iran. He was present to digs photograph 0178/CG LAPS, shown to me this day by investigators.
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