Fay Report Annex: DOD Interview of 97B Counterintelligence Agent re: Conditions at Abu Ghraib

Sworn statement by 97B counterintelligence agent stating the he "overheard someone making a statement about a detainee dying while being interrogated by an Other Government Agency (OGA) official. The OGA then packed the detainee in ice and placed him in a local taxi. The taxi driver was paid to take the body away. I was not sure if I had heard correctly until [redacted] confirmed the statement was made by [redacted] and not sure if it was a joke or a true story." The agent also reported hearing rumors that Other Government Agency (OGA) was permitted to conduct unauthorized interrogations of ghost detainees in block 1A. The OGA would then send liquor and cigars to the individual.

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Interview
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Friday, June 4, 2004
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Wednesday, March 2, 2005
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SWORN STATEMENT
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MIDDLE NAME
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Company, 519th Military intelligence Battalion, 525th Military Intelligence Brigade

9. WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
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From the end of Jul 03 to early Oct 03 1 was deployed to Ahu Ghraih AG), Iraq with A Company, 519th MI Bn. I am a 978
my arrival to AG Was to set up the wor
Counterintelligence Agent who perfurined interrogations. My team's initial mission upon

et interrogation operations for detainees gathered during operation VICTORY BOUNTY
rr g ' R lcs of Engagement (MOE), winch established
and lilt support areas to b with interrogator input, an Interrogationarrival to AG, I was briefed on the IROE and signedPrior to initial operations anon techniques. Short % our authorized limits conc l
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memorandum stating I understoo and would folow the MOE.' tc IROE in Iraq was similar torhe one used by thc 519th in
d for Iraq was more detailed. This was done to preclude questions two documents
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Afghanistan. A difference in the
concerning limitations. In my opinion, the IROE was clear and adequately established our left and right boundaries concerning interrogation techniques. Certain techniques contained in the IROE had to be justified and approved. The vehicle forrequesting e
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these techniques was the interrogation plan, which had to be done for every it The request

bad to be requested through the interrogationchid to the operations cel u ration through

included a detailed proposed schedule and justification. Once approved the o schedule to the weMP's who we f I
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then take thee the detainees
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the tenm leader back dschedulef 11 wed I do not know the methods the MP's Used to ensure aaasions the
ere unknown. On severalsupposed to ensure the
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the proper time. The 72nd MP's kept a three ring binder in cell block old me of one su ch occasionot which a

eason. The
instructions we gave the MP's concerning detainees were not executed. town r

interrogator moved a detainee outside without shade tor an approximate •.culated the guard
c to look after his welfare during that time.
d . c• ered the incident and
ibtcrrogntor told the MP guar i g 001 relayed to the retell, nor extent •.
' d and the instructions were
changed relayed to two months into our operation of interrogating these detainees
for allowing the inchicitt to occur. to make hoG
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ceivc other detainees from various detention tacilities
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our foci . laturc of the detainee transfers , many s ar
centralized loc. it Ml Bn and detainees those personnel were
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documentation ere under intense pressure from LTG SANCHEZ k
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interrogating ari ern methods and processes, to include the actual question provide intelligence reporting and 3 nducted interrogations themselves. One
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ti plans occasion 0 e night. It seemed COL PAPPAS was not . experieneed in
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interrogation occurred at the request ane
concerned with reporting than proper interrogation techniques. On approximate y interrugatih a statement about a detainee dying while being interrogated by an Other Government Agency
on operations and wasgmore d someone makin in a local taxi. The taxi driver was paid to take the
, in i
(OGA) official. The OGA then packed the detainee onfirmed the statement was made b
. was not sure if I had heard correct' until to house their detainees at the AG facilit in "ghost ant not sure if it was a joke or a true story.
body away
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cells" in block IA and allowing them to interrogate our detainees at their discretion. I heard rumors cigars and liquor tram the OGA as gifts for letting these activities occur. During the course of interrogation operations I once received a detainee wearing only pink underwear. Representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross were present
at AG during this incident. I did not request this to be done and was told the reason for the women's attire was the MP's were
available for the detainees. I informed my chain of
that was
experiencing a supply shortage and the women's underwear were all
coin:nand of the incident. I did not witness any abuse or maltreatment of detainees while at AG. I never directed the MP's to abuse.or maltreat the detainees, nor did I ever hear of it. The MP's never offered to abuse the detainees for me, nor did I ever hear of them offering to do so for other MI personnel. After the Joint interrogation and Debriefing Center was established, COL
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