DOS Cable: Talking Points on the Detentions of Non-Afghani Nationals Resulting from Afghanistan Conflict

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This is a State Department cable containing an Action Message that states the US Government is gathering information on the identities and nationalities of detainees found in the conflict zone of Afghanistan, but is not sharing that information with the Afghans. It also provides talking points about detentions and possible repatriation of non-Afghani nationals to their home countries.

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Wednesday, December 10, 2003
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FOLLOWING SENT ACTION TO1 1 RIYADH, 1 B1
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S E C R E T STATE 212937 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE REVIEW AUTHORITY: WILLIAM E LANDFAIR
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DATE/CASE ID: 02 NOV 2004 200303827
E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/10/2011
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PREL, PTER, KAWC,

I SUbJECT: vASECUTION OF NON-AFGHANIS FIGHTING WITH AL
QAEDA OR TALIBAN

CLASSIFIED BY AMBASSADOR PIERRE-RICHARD PROSPER (S/WCI)

FOR REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D)

1.
(U) THIS IS AN ACTION MESSAGE.

2.
(S) SUMMARY. EVENTS IN AFGHANISTAN HAVE RESULTED IN
DETENTION OF NON-AFGHANIS FIGHTING WITH AL QAEDA OR THE
TALIBAN, AND WE BELIEVE THERE WILL BE AN INCREASING NUMBER
OF PERSONS DETAINED. ONE OPTION TO DEAL WITH THEM IS TO
REPATRIATE SUCH PERSONS TO THEIR COUNTRIES OF NATIONALITY.
TO ASSIST IN EVALUATING POSSIBLE DISPOSITION OF THESE
PERSONS, DEPARTMENT IS SEEKING INFORMATION CONCERNING
WHETHER SUCH PERSONS WOULD BE PROSECUTED IF REPATRIATED.
END SUMMARY.

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(SBU) USG IS GATHERING INFORMATION ON THE IDENTITIES
AND NATIONALITY OF DETAINEES. THIS INFORMATION CANNOT BE
SHARED WITH HOST GOVERNMENTS AT THIS EARLY STAGE. POSTS
SHOULD NOTE TO HOST GOVERNMENT THAT AT THIS POINT IT IS
THE AFGHANS THEMSELVES THAT HAVE DETAINED PERSONS RELATED
TO THIS CONFLICT (THE USG HOLDS ONLY ONE, WHO IS AN
AMCIT), BUT THE USG WOULD HOPE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO
THE HOST GOVERNMENTS ABOUT THEIR NATIONALS IN THE FUTURE.

7.
(SBU) ACTION ADDRESSEES ARE IN COUNTRIES WHOSE
NATIONALS ARE KNOWN OR PREDICTED TO BE AMONG DETAINEES.
IT MAY TURN OUT THAT NATIONALS OF INFO ADDRESSEES HOST
COUNTRIES WILL ALSO BE DETAINED, IN WHICH EVENT DEPARTMENT
MAY REQUEST THAT DEMARCHES BE MADE IN THOSE COUNTRIES.

8.
(U) BEGIN TALKING POINTS:

A. THE UNITED STATES APPRECIATES THE VITAL ROLE PLAYED BY
YOUR GOVERNMENT IN THE FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM. AN
IMPORTANT NEXT STEP IN THAT FIGHT WILL BE TO BRING TO •
JUSTICE PERSONS WHO HARBORED OR FOUGHT WITH AL QAEDA OR
THE TALIBAN AND HAVE COMMITTED PROSECUTABLE CRIMES.

B. LOCAL AFGHAN FORCES HAVE DETAINED NON-AFGHANIS WHO
HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF OR FOUGHT ALONG SIDE AL QAEDA OR THE
TALIBAN. MANY OF THEM POSE SERIOUS DANGERS TO OUR
SOCIETIES AND CAN BE EXPECTED TO COMMIT ACTS OF TERRORISM
OR TAKE UP ARMS AGAINST US IN THE FUTURE IF ALLOWED TO GO

FREE.

C. SOME OF THESE PERSONS MAY BE NATIONALS OF YOUR COUNTRY.
IN THE EVENT THAT SOME TURN OUT TO BE YOUR NATIONALS, ONE
POSSIBILITY WOULD BE FOR SUCH PERSONS TO BE REPATRIATED
AND SUBJECT TO PROSECUTION UNDER YOUR LAWS.

D. WHAT IS YOUR GOVERNMENT'S VIEW ON HOW SUCH PERSONS
WOULD BE DEALT WITH IF RETURNED TO YOUR COUNTRY? IN
PARTICULAR:

-- WOULD SUCH PERSONS BE SUBJECT TO PROSECUTION IN YOUR
COUNTRY, AND IF SO, FOR WHAT CRIMES? FOR CRIMES COMMITTED
INSIDE YOUR COUNTRY? FOR CRIMES COMMITTED OUTSIDE,
INCLUDING FOR ACTS RELATED TO THE AFGHAN CONFLICT OR
TERRORIST ACTS?

-- DO YOU HAVE CHARGES PENDING AGAINST ANY OF YOUR
NATIONALS (OR OTHERS) WHO YOU KNOW OR SUSPECT HAVE JOINED
OR FOUGHT WITH AL QAEDA OR THE TALIBAN? WHAT ARE THOSE
CHARGES, AND AGAINST WHOM HAVE THEY BEEN BROUGHT?

-- WOULD YOUR GOVERNMENT ACTIVELY SEEK TO PROSECUTE THESE

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0TYPES OF PERSONS AND SEEK APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENTS? WHAT

drYPES OF PUNISHMENTS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR OFFENSES THAT ARE
pIKELY TO BE BROUGHT AGAINST YOUR NATIONALS?

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9. (U) FOR RIYADH: DURING HIS DECEMBER 7 MEETING WITH
THE PRESIDENT, FOREIGN MINISTER SAUD DISCUSSED THE NEED TO
BRING TO JUSTICE TERRORISTS WHO ARE CAPTURED IN
AFGHANISTAN. IN ADDITION, A DEC. 9 REUTERS STORY REPORTED

ON A STATEMENT BY FOREIGN MINISTER SAUD THAT SAUDI ARABIA
WOULD RECEIVE SAUDI CITIZENS WHO HAD FOUGHT WITH THE
TALIBAN, AND THAT "THOSE WHO ARE CRIMINALLY INVOLVED WILL
BE PUNISHED: BUT THEY ARE OUR RESPONSIBILITY." POST
SHOULD SEEK ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON HOW THESE
PROSECUTIONS WOULD OCCUR AND TO WHICH CRIMES THEY WOULD
RELATE.
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