DOS Cable re: U.S. Faces Criticism Over Guantanamo and Military Tribunals

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State Department cable stating that Gerard Stoudmann, Ambassador and Director of the OSCE office of Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) was critical of the U.S. for not implementing international law by detaining terror suspects at Guantanamo without applying the Geneva Conventions and using Military Tribunals. Heavily redacted.

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MILITARY TRIBUNALS

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1. (SB1J) SUMMARY: AMBASSADOR GERARD STOUDMANN, THE DIRECTOR
OF THE SCE'S OFFICE OF DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS AND HUMAN
RIGHTS ODIHR), IN BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE MEETINGS THIS

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WEEK, I CLUDING IN HIS PRESENTATION TO THE OSCE PERMANENT
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COUNCIL (PC) ON JANUARY 31, CRITICIZED THE U.S. FOR

"NON-IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW" IN DETAINING AND PREPARING TO PROSECUTE NON-AMERICANS ACCUSED OF INVOLVEMENT
IN TERRORIST ACTS AGAINST THE U.S. IN THE PC, NONE OF THE PARTICIPATING STATES MENTIONED THE U.S. DIRECTLY, BUT SOME DID ALLUDE TO CONCERNS REGARDING THE NON-APPLICATION OF THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS IN THE CASE OF THE GUANTANAMO DETAINEES. STOUDMANN SPECIFICALLY QUESTIONED OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW WITH REGARD TO THREE ISSUES:
-- THE GENEVA CONVENTION AS IT APPLIES TO THE DETAINEES AT GUANTANAMO BAY;
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-- THE LEGAL JUSTIFICATION FOR THE TRANSFER OF THE

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WHETHER IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PRINCIPLES OF

NON-DfSCRIMINATION AND EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW IN THE B 1 , B 7(A), B7(C)
INTERNATIONAL COVENANT ON CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS. END

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 02 OF 02 USOSCE 000133

E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/31/2012
TAGS: OSCE, PREL, PHUM, PTER
SUBJECT: OSCE/ODIHR: US FACES CRITICISM OVER GUANTANAMO,
BOSNIAN ALGERIANS, MILITARY TRIBUNALS

B7(A), B7(C)
PC CRITICISM FOCUSES ON DETAINEES, GENEVA CONVENTION

4. (SBU) IN HIS PRESENTATION TO THE PERMANENT COUNCIL
JANUARY 31, AMBASSADOR STOUDMANN AGAIN RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE U.S. RECORD ON HUMAN RIGHTS IN ITS WAR AGAINST TERRORISM.

HIS POINTS DIFFERED LITTLE FROM THOSE HE HAD MADE PRIVATELY
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TO AMBASSADOR MINIKES THE DAY BEFORE. HE DID, HOWEVER,
PUBLICLY SAY THAT HE WAS NOT QUESTIONING THE U.S.'S RIGHT TO
SELF-DEFENSE OR THE EXISTENCE OF CONCRETE THREATS TO THE U.S.

STOUDMANN WAS ESPECIALLY HARD ON THE QUESTION OF THE
LEGALITY OF THE TRANSFER OF THE SUSPECTED TERRORISTS IN

STATING THAT "REQUESTS BY ODIHR FOR CLARIFICATION
REMAINED UNANSWERED." (COMMENT: OTHER POINTS MADE BY
AMBASSADOR STOUDMANN ON GENERAL HUMAN DIMENSION ISSUES WILL
BE SENT SEPTEL. END COMMENT.)

5. (SBU) SEVERAL PARTICIPATING STATES RESPONDED TO
STOUDMANN'S POINTS AND URGED STATES TO UPHOLD INTERNATIONAL
LAW AND THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, THOUGH NONE MENTIONED THE
UNITED STATES BY NAME. MOST COMMENTS FOCUSED ON THE NEED TO
BALANCE CRITICISM OF HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES IN THE FORMER SOVIET
UNION WITH ISSUES THAT EITHER AFFECT THE WHOLE OSCE REGION OR
THAT PART OF IT "WEST OF VIENNA".

-- THE EUROPEAN UNION (REPRESENTED BY SPAIN) AND CANADA URGED
ODIHR TO ENSURE THAT RESPECT FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE

PRINCIPLES OF INTERNATIONAL LAW ARE UPHELD IN THE FIGHT
AGAINST TERRORISM;

-- SWITZERLAND ARGUED THAT STATES DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO

INTERPRET THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS IN THEIR OWN WAY AND VOICED
FULL AGREEMENT WITH AMBASSADOR STOUDMANN'S STATEMENT. (NOTE:

STOUDMANN IS A SWISS DIPLOMAT. END NOTE)

-- RUSSIA AND ARMENIA COMMENDED STOUDMANN FOR BEING

"BALANCED" AND FOR RAISING PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR ACROSS THE
OSCE REGION AND IN PARTICULAR HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES "WEST OF

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VIENNA." (THE ARMENIAN AMBASSADOR, IN HIS TYPICALLY COLORFUL
FASHION, DESCRIBED THE DIVIDE AS BEING EAST AND WEST OF

"EDEN.") RUSSIA ALSO ARGUED THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF HOTBEDS

FOR TERRORISM AND RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE IN WESTERN COUNTRIES.

-- NORWAY ECHOED STOUDMANN'S CONCERN THAT A PERCEPTION OF NOT
FULLY UPHOLDING HUMAN RIGHTS OR THE ADHERENCE TO
INTERNATIONAL LAW IN THE FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM CAN BE
COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND CAN LEND SUPPORT TO THOSE WILLING TO
DEBATE OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR CORE VALUES.

RESPONDED TO CRITICISM OF THE TRANSFER
OF DETAINEES THERE BY SAYING THAT THE ISSUE CAN ONLY BE
DISCUSSED IN A GENERAL WAY,'AS NO ONE HAS ALL OF THE
NECESSARY INFORMATION. J PROMISED TO RESPOND TO

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STOUDMANN'S CRITICISM AT A LATER DATE.

-- THE CHAIRMAN-IN-OFFICE (PORTUGAL) ALSO VOICED CRITICISM,

STATING THAT ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE A DEBATE AS TO ADAPTING

INTERNATIONAL LAW AND THE GENEVA CONVENTION, GIVEN THE NEW

CIRCUMSTANCES OF TERRORISM, WE CANNOT IGNORE THE LAWS WE HAVE

UNTIL NEW ONES ARE WRITTEN.

6. (SBU) AMBASSADOR MINIKES RESPONDED, PER REFTEL GUIDANCE,
URGING PARTICIPATING STATES TO BE PATIENT AS THE U.S.
ATTEMPTS TO DEAL WITH THE LEGAL ISSUES AT HAND. HE ASSURED
THE OSCE THAT WE BELIEVE OUR ACTIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE

U.S. GOVERNMENT'S COMMITMENT TO RESPECT AND SAFEGUARD
INTERNATIONAL LAW. HE INFORMED THE PC THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS NEW FACTS AND CONCLUSIONS BECOME
KNOWN.

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