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State Department cable concerning the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs Staff meeting notes from January 23, 2002. Multiple topics, including detainees. "Public Reaction re detainees is turning very negative." Concerns of various countries and Jones' perceptions on possible implications for US-Europe relations is discussed.

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1.
(U) PLEASE PASS TO KAREN DECKER AND A/S JONES.

2.
(S) STAFF MEETING NOTES

BUREAU. OF EUROPEAN AND EURASIAN AFFAIRS
STAFF MEETING NOTES
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 23, 2002

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ACTING ASSISTANT SECRETARY STEVE PIFER
ASSISTANT SECRETARY JONES IS ERT ALMATY.

-THE SECRETARY WAS AT THE WHITE HOUSE SO THE DEPUTY
SECRETARY PRESIDED AT THE 0830 EST MEETING:
-THE DEPUTY SECRETARY DISCUSSED AN "IN THE LOOP" ARTICLE
REGARDING DELAYS IN PREPARING THE UN MISSION GENEVA
BUILDING AND UNDERSCORED THAT

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-PER THE DEPUTY SECRETARY, THE BUDGET COMES OUT TODAY.

-G U/S DOBRIANSKY SAID AN ALDAC IS GOING OUT RE
TRAFFICKING IN WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
-THERE'S A DC MEETING TODAY; WE MAY HAVE A SOP FOR
REQUESTING ACCESS TO DETAINEES.

PPD
-BIG ISSUE: STATUS OF DETAINEES.
-ACTING A/S PIFER ASKED IF THE ALDAC WENT OUT. IT DID
NOT.

DAS PASCOE

-ONE ISSUE HEATING UP: CENTRAL ASIAN GAS. /

DAS CONLEY
-MEETING WITH H DAS POLT TO DISCUSS/

AGS
-EUROPEAN GOVERNMENTS AND FOREIGN MINISTERS ARE NOW
TAKING PUBLIC POSITION ON THE DETAINEE ISSUE.
ON THE F16S: /

-UPDATED ON AUSTRIAN OPPOSITION TO

1
-AUSTRIAN VICE CHANCELLOR RIESS-PASSER IS COMING TO
WASHINGTON; TRYING TO ARRANGE AN APPROPRIATE PERSON TO
MEET WITH HER.

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-MINI POLITICAL CRISIS: SLOVAK\

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RUS -THE KASYANOV ADVANCE TEAM MIGHT ARRIVE TODAY.
NB -NEW GOVERNMENT IN ESTONIA. SECRET
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ERA -PDAS RIES REMAINS IN MADRID TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC ISSUES WITH THE EU.
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MISSION PROGRAM OFFSITE ON FRIDAY.

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-A DELEGATION ARRIVES THIS AFTERNOON, LOOKING FOR
) IMO.

A RIDE TO
-PUBLIC REACTION RE DETAINEES IS TURNING VERY NEGATIVE.

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-DETAINEES: OFFICES SHOULD COME TO. PRA RATHER THAN GO
STRAIGHT TO CENTCOM.
-WORKING WITH S/WCI AMBASSADOR PROSPER AND PM DAS SUCHAN

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3. (5) DAILY ACTIVITY REPORT

DAILY ACTIVITY REPORT
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 23, 2002

EUR/SNEC

(U) ARMENIA/AZERBAIJAN - BRIEFING ARMENIAN CAUCUS STAFFERS
ON

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(T. GRENCIK, X7-9677)

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(C) TURKEY - KARZAI AND CODEL HOBSON MAY COINCIDE AT
INCIRLIK: EUCOM D/POLAD ALERTED US THAT AIA PRESIDENT
KARZAI WILL BE PASSING THROUGH INCIRLIK LATE 1/24 ENROUTE
TO WASHINGTON DC FOR HIS 1/28 MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT,
POSSIBLY AT THE SAME TIME CODEL HOBSON WOULD BE VISITING
INCIRLIK.

EUR/AGS

(SBU) AUSTRIA - GOVERNING COALITION AT LOGGERHEADS OVER
CZECH ACCESSION: THE RIGHT-OF-CENTER FREEDOM PARTY (FPV)
IS USING TWO ISSUES TO OPENLY OPPOSE CZECH EU ACCESSION:
THE ANTI-TEMELIN PETITION AND DEMANDS THAT THE CZECH

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REPUBLIC ABOLISH THE BENES DECREES. (THE POST WORLD-WAR

II DECREES LED TO THE EXPROPRIATION AND EXPULSION OF THE
SUDETEN GERMAN POPULATION IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA.) THE FPV GOT

915,000 SIGNATURES ON ITS ANTI-TEMELIN PETITION. UNDER
AUSTRIAN LAW, THIS BRINGS THE MATTER TO PARLIAMENT FOR
DISCUSSION. (IT IS NOT EXPECTED TO PASS. THE PETITION
DOES NOT REQUIRE SCHUESSEL OR THE GOA TO DO ANYTHING. THE
MOST LIKELY OUTCOME IS THAT IT WILL BE IGNORED, BUT THIS
ACTION SLIGHTLY INCREASE THE FPO'S VOTER BASE TO THE
RIGHT. CHANCELLOR WOLFGANG SCHUESSEL CALLED EU
ENLARGEMENT A CORE ISSUE, AND QUESTIONED WHETHER THE
COALITION COULD CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. (VIENNA 392)

(BARBARA YODER, X 7-2448)

EUR/NCE

(C) SLOVAKIA - SLOVAK FINANCE MINISTER RESIGNS: FOLLOWING
A JANUARY 23 MEETING WITH PRIME MINISTER DZURINDA, FINANCE
MINISTER BRIGITA SCHMOGNEROVA ANNOUNCED THAT SHE WOULD
RESIGN EFFECTIVE JANUARY 28./

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(U) ITALY - SUCCESSFUL U.S.-ITALIAN MEETING ON CLIMATE
CHANGE RESEARCH: ON JANUARY 22 AND 23, EMBASSY ROME
HOSTED A MEETING OF ITALIAN AND U.S. SCIENTIFIC
DELEGATIONS TO DISCUSS JOINT CLIMATE CHANGE RESEARCH.
THIS CONFERENCE FOLLOWS UP ON THE JOINT STATEMENT ON
CLIMATE CHANGE RESEARCH ISSUED BY PRESIDENT BUSH AND PM
BERLUSCONI IN JULY 2001. AS A RESULT OF THE MEETING, MORE
THAN 20 JOINT PROJECTS WILL BE IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENTED;
THE TWO SIDES ALSO IDENTIFIED PROMISING TOPICS FOR FURTHER
STUDY. THE CONFERENCE HAS DRAWN VERY POSITIVE MEDIA
COVERAGE IN ITALY. (EUR/WE: ELEANORE FOX, 7-2632; EMBASSY
ROME-DESK EMAIL)

EUR/RPM

(U) CODEL TO BRUSSELS, PARIS, AND LONDON: REPS. BEREUTER
AND PETRI WILL LEAD A COMBINED HOUSE DELEGATION OF U.S.
MEMBERS OF THE NATO PARLIAMENTARY ASSEMBLY AND THE BRITISH
AMERICAN PARLIAMENTARY GROUP TO BRUSSELS, PARIS, AND
LONDON FROM FEBRUARY 17-26. THE CODEL WILL ATTEND THE
JOINT MEETINGS OF THE NATO PARLIAMENTARY ASSEMBLYS
POLITICAL, ECONOMIC, AND DEFENSE AND SECURITY COMMITTEES
WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION IN BRUSSELS. THE CODEL WILL ALSO
ATTEND MEETINGS AT THE OECD IN PARIS AND THE SCHEDULED
BIANNUAL MEETING OF THE BRITISH AMERICAN PARLIAMENTARY
GROUP IN LONDON. (STEELE MEANS X6-7293)

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(U) COVERAGE OF DEPUTY SECRETATY ARMITAGE'S PRESS
ROUNDTABLE: D STAFF WAS PLEASED WITH THE 1/22 EUROPEAN
PRESS ROUNDTABLE WITH THE DEPUTY SECRETARY. FIVE PAPERS
COVERED THE EVENT ON 1/23. MOST FOCUSED ON ARMITAGE'S
DEFENSE OF U:S. HANDLING OF DETAINEES AT GUANTANAMO AND
HIS STATEMENT THAT MANY WILL BE RETURNED TO THEIR
HOMELANDS AFTER INTERROGATION. ALSO PICKED UP WERE HIS
COMMENTS ON WHAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED IN AFGHANISTAN, AND
DISCUSSION OF SOMALIA, IRAQ, THE MIDDLE EAST, AND THE

PHILIPPINES. (EUR/PPD:ROBERT HILTON, 647-5252)

(U) BETH JONES INTERVIEW: SPAIN'S EL PAIS RAN AN
INTERVIEW WITH A/S JONES IN ITS JANUARY 23 EDITION.
HEADLINE READS: "ELIZABETH JONES, U.S. ASSISTANT
SECRETARY OF STATE FOR EUROPEAN AFFAIRS: THE SITUATION OF
THE PRISONERS CONCERNS US AS MUCH AS IT CONCERNS YOU."
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WOULD POSE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR DEVELOPMENT OF TIES BETWEEN
THE EUROPEAN UNION AND WASHINGTON, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT
THAT THE FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM HAS BECOME A NEW
INTERNATIONAL STRATEGIC PRIORITY."

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-"'ALTHOUGH WE DON'T REGARD THEM AS PRISONERS OF WAR, THE

WAY THEY ARE BEING TREATED COMPLIES WITH THE GENEVA

CONVENTION,' SAID JONES."

-"THE USE OF THE DEATH PENALTY IN THE U.S. AND THE NEW
MILITARY TRIBUNALS, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE ACKNOWLEDGED BY
JONES AS A DIFFICULTY IN ORDER FOR EUROPE AND HER COUNTRY
TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON EXTRADITION, WHICH THE SPANISH

PRESIDENCY IS PROMOTING. BUT JONES IS NOT PESSIMISTIC.

SHE EXPLAINED THAT EUROPEAN AND AMERICAN JUDGES HAVE
ALREADY PROVEN THAT SUCH DIFFICULTIES CAN BE OVERCOME BY
AGREEING —.ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS -- THAT THE DEATH
PENALTY WILL NOT BE APPLIED IN THE CASE OF THE EXTRADITED
PERSON."

(EUR/PPD:ROBERT HILTON, 647-5252)

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EUR PRESS ISSUES

GUANTANAMO DETAINEES.

ITALY: LEFT-LEANING, INFLUENTIAL LA REPUBBLICA: "BETWEEN

U.S. RESENTFUL PUBLIC OPINION AND THE SENSATION

(RESOUNDING) IN EUROPE, WHICH FEELS QUITE RIGHT, THE 158
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PRISONERS, LOCKED IN THE 'HENCOOPS' IN GUANTANAMO BAY,

REPRESENT THE FIRST, IMPORTANT SPLIT WITHIN THE ANTI-

TERROR COALITION. WHAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE BATTLEFIELD

TO DO--SPLITTING THE COALITION--X-RAY CAMP...IS NOW

RISKING TO ACHIEVE."

FRANCE: LEFT-OF-CENTER LE MONDE: "IN WAR AS IN POLITICS,

THE VICTOR'S BEHAVIOR TOWARDS THE VANQUISHED IS OF THE

ESSENCE: IT IS A QUESTION OF VALUES....AMERICA'S ATTITUDE

TOWARDS THE PRISONERS FROM AFGHANISTAN IS VERY MUCH A

DENIAL OF THE VALUES WHICH GUIDED WASHINGTON'S

INTERVENTION IN AFGHANISTAN...."

GERMANY: RIGHT-OF-CENTER DIE WELT: "IF THE ALLIANCE IS

FIGHTING A WAR AND IF MILITARY COURTS ARE TO DECIDE THE

FATE OF THE TALIBAN FIGHTERS, WHY ARE THE DETAINEES NOT

GRANTED THE STATUS OF POWS? AND IF THE REASON WHY THE
ALLIANCE TOOK UP ARMS IS THE DEFENSE OF HUMAN RIGHTS, WHY
ARE THE DETAINEES NOT GRANTED THE LEGAL PROTECTION THAT

GOES HAND IN HAND WITH HUMAN RIGHTS? ...MAKING THINGS

PUBLIC IS THE ONLY WAY OF PREVENTING EXCESS AND
ARBITRARINESS."

CZECH REPUBLIC: CENTER-RIGHT LIDOVI NOVINY: "WHAT ONE
COUNTRY CLAIMS AS A FIGHT FOR NATIONAL LIBERATION ANOTHER
CALLS TERRORISM.... THE MAIN PROBLEM, WHICH SHOULD BE
DEALT WITH ON THE LEVEL OF UNITED NATIONS, IS TO ELIMINATE
ASSESSMENTS MADE ACCORDING TO DOUBLE STANDARDS. THIS IS
JUST AS IMPORTANT IN THE ANTI-TERRORIST AGENDA AS
LIQUIDATING AL QAEDA."

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4. (S)THE BROAD COALITION JANUARY 23 (DRAFTED BY
AMBASSADOR PASCOE).

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GITMO DETENTIONS: THIS CONTINUES TO OCCUPY A FAIR AMOUNT

OF THE DEPARTMENT'S TIME. WE NOW HAVE REQUESTS ACCESS TO THEIR NATIONALS ON GITMO. FROM 'FOR Bl.
B5

AFGHAN RECONSTRUCTION:

B1
THE BUDGET IS DUE OUT TODAY WITH DOD AND THE STATE
DEPARTMENT DOING FAIRLY WELL. MANY DOMESTIC PROGRAMS WILL
BE CUT.

HERE IS THE LATEST CODEL UPDATE FROM CAROL THOMPSON:
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REP DAVID HOBSON (R-OH) 1/24-28 GERMANY/ITALY/
TURKEY/(MILITARY
CONSTRUCTION).

*SEN. CHRISTOPHER DODD (D-CN)1/24-28 IRELAND (PEACE
PROCESS IMPLE-
MENTATION)

SEN. JOSEPH LIEBERMANN (D-CN) 1/30-2/3 GERMANY(WERKUNDE
W/MCCAIN CONF)

. *REP. JAMES INHOFE (R-OK) 1/31-2/5 GERMANY/BOSNIA/
KOSOVORMILCON) .

REP. JIM SAXTON (R-NJ) 2/15-25 RUSSIA/GERMANY

REP. DOUG BEREUTER (R-NE)2/16-26 BELGIUM/FRANCE/
W/PETRI UK (NPA/BAPG)

*REP BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA) 2/15-25 RUSSIA/BELGIUM/

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GERMANY (INTERNET
E-COMMERCE)
*REP TIM ROEMER (D-IN) 2/17-22 GERMANY/RUSSIA
(TERRORISM)
STAFFDELS
*HELWIG (CSCE) 1/15-3/22 AUSTRIA
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