Memo of a conversation between an unknown interviewee and [redacted]. In the memo, the interviewee discusses methods used to get detainees to talk.
Interviewee explained that detainees are captured, blindfolded, yelled at, pushed, in order to leave them in a state of fear.
The interviewee explains during the conversation what he suggested to [redacted], "I told him that the guards should appear as though they could be harsh, abrasive and ... I used some extremely harsh words to describe the level of fear that the prisoner should feel. I told him that this fear, the guards, this place all come together to create a harsh environment and that this sets the stage for the interrogator. I told him that he should be the first friendly face the prisoner sees, and that the prisoner will want to talk to relieve his fear. I suggested he have someone take some pictures of what seemed to be guards being rough with prisoners, so he could use them to scare the prisoners."
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I talked briefly about the approach ROE. Then I told him that I'd heard that dogs had been used successfully and that they could be intimidating. I told him the story.about the dog that was trained to bark on cue and suggested that he talk to the MPs aboutrpossibilities. I told him that the basic approach strategies would be most successful within the first few hours of capture, because that's when a prisoner's stress level was highest and once they become accustomed to • the environment, their stress level decreases and their resistance increases. I told him that these prisoners are captured by soldiers, taken from their familiar surroundings, blindfolded and put into a truck and brought to this place; and then they are pushed down a hall with guards barking orders and thrown into a cell, naked; and that not knowing what was going to happen or what the guards might do caused them extreme fear. I told him that he should explain to the guards-how this fear works to his adva ntage and tell them not to get friendly with the prisoners, or try to converse with them or give them cigarettes and stuff. I told him that the guards should appear as though they could be harsh, abrasive and ... I used some extremely harsh words to describe the level of fear that the prisoner should feel. I told him that this fear, the guards, this place all come together to create a harsh environment and that this sets the stage for tne interrogator. I told him that he should be the first friendly face the prisoner sees, and that the prisoner will want to talk to relieve his fear. I sucoested he have someone take some pictures of what seemed to be guards being rough with prisoners, so he could use them to scare the prisoners. I also described what I thought was a formal, professional prisoner in-processing as I observed it in Bagram.
I did not intend for any prisoner to get hurt. My only intent was for the prisoner to imagine what could happen.
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