Criminal Investigative Task Force Interview of Guantanamo Bay Detainee re: Detainee's Association with the Taliban in Afghanistan

This investigative report was generated by the Criminal Investigative Task Force (CITF) Report of Investigative Activity and the interview of the detainee at Camp Delta was conducted by the Navy Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS). The detainee being interviewed complains of a persistent rash while incarcerated, but his conditions were otherwise fine. He admits being associated with the Taliban, but claims not to hold a rank in the organization. He also claims that he was turned in because of a debt owed by his younger brother.

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CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIVE TASK FORCE (CI REPORT OF INVESTIGATIVE ACTIVITYJ
3, ACTIVITY NUMBER1. DATE OF INVESTIGATIVE ACTIVITY 2. PLACE
26 Jul 03 GTMO, Cuba 1111111.11111111111

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4. REMARKSJ
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Subject Interview of: (UNK).1111111111111M 70TH DIVISION (TALIBAN MILITARY)
Date/Place: 26 Jul 03/GTMO, Cuba
n 26 Jul 03, iimlimmi Internment Serial Number (ISN) Jwas interviewed by SA
and SAIIIIIIIIIpliall, Naval Criminal Investigative Service at Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The interview was conducted I(, Farsi and translated byelIMEMIX 111111.1111111111 provided the.following information: bn)(c)-/ t ion)(()-2 ‘- b 1-7) (*)--ss-
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amemsexpressed is s sfacbon wi the food and living conditions. However, alimmirde% tlcri gd)-Ser-ash
that has been persistent for 1 months. Detainee facility medical personnel had prescribed medication, but the condition still exists.Jdescribed the doctors as "nice and knowledgeable" and that the rash may be due to stress and worry over his captivity.J ted that he was innocent and should not be detained. Further, he was not an enemy of the US and belie s that US technology would reveal what he has done and not done. 1 CD cc) -S-
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1111¦11111liadmitted knowing 4111111.111 ancimilloimphonetic), and confirmed that these two

individuals were Taliban.JImplied that he knew of these individuals due to a complex situation that had
arisen from his suit to marry his UzbekJ, who is aiso his cousin.
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also a mi ed knowingJ 11111•111111111111.s
sought the help oJ According tol1=11111.1111Lthil.,T)9111pra_had killed 4000 people.
Consequently, approximately 120 Uzbek and Tajiks from Shabalan (phonetic

J(phonetic) were also /2(1,0_ s-seeking protection.J offered to help train and organize these people. MINIIIIIIIIIwas I caught up in this organi 'on and was dispatched by111111111•11 ¦11.1. and 20 other people to Babuali.
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alleged that i=111111111Jattacked some Pashtuns in retaliation for a Pashtun attack
against the local people. The Pashtuns then counterattacked the Uzbeks and drove the Uzbeks into the mountains.
4 and his unit were captured in this engagement and he was subsequently questioned by the Taliban.
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1111111111M/Filgi tifloreing in the Taliban forces, but insisted that he h d held no rank. 1111111.111111111& J()) responsibilities were to coordinate Issues for his tribe. For example, he sta d that he would identify sick members and arrange for them to be replaced with healthy personnel. According he didn't really work for the Taliban, but acted as a representative for his tribal members and worked for his tribal elders who assigned him this responsibility. IllsxAs. iequired due to the Taliban practice of forced recruitment of personnel into their units.
11¦1111111Kkad'approximately 40 Uzbeks in his unit and worked with another unit of 40 Tajiks under the
responsibility ofJimplying that both these elements were members ofall1111111111111111k`tribal group.
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1111.11111.11111claimed thatile Seas aware of the animosity between the Uzbeks and Taliban. J
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aiimp,took h' kart frOrriowilr-Viallls that 111111•1111111111may have encountered were handled
did not know the source of any finances, but suggested that they may have come from

licy2711111111116.J111¦11. also suggested that-was a subordinate ofilININIIIIMIL in the
Baghlan Pro ince.J\J
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4. REMARKS (Continued)Jbrigll) -3 .J.5.--J 1.1( 6
t,1*--Da) -4th c0- 3. anii giccxsiT7uimilms ( 2_cyr.3) 11111111MgccriltieCihila liation lovithainni. According to J ... 4i-lOr chrel;stime during the -Haj to Mecca in 997. 111111111MInwas escorting his mother on the Haj. Jrovided his aircraft to fly approximately 120 h jjis from: Mazar-e-Sharif to Peshawar and later to Islamabad, Pakistan, bute J. rove--h 17)(4,.)3
3 to Mazar-e-Sharlf, ailimallegeditcMhis to save the Uzbek hails who would have been killed by Leban4 le)ezeo_s_ (phonetic) along the way. WHiliti-atsoiD LI-ed trave amentaticiN . hajjis were accompanied by twoJ.
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approximately 10-15 days In Pakistan, but never resided in Pakistan. —c armenthatammorprovided
threei heliCopters for his supporters travel. Jopined theJwanted to show off his supporters. -This was the first time thatJetINInnkJthey did not actu Iyy tat this contact.

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111111.11111Inni.admitted to surrendering to111111111BECtor some undisclosed slight or offense. Initially1111111111111111111 stated that he was alone when he surrendered, bitkv theamended this story by saying he was actuAlly withJtribalJ ) (0_3 Further,. at this encounter,111111.1111Tnafebrto e eiders that he knewill.111111111: kgfcime% took elder& Fatefiriprison" where' he was incarcerated, bUt insisted that he was not "turned Mier bylining firilels facility, but they were not there for political 'reasons, only for minor civil offenses,
rMileict er 40 prisoners in such 'as fighting. 4111111111111111r alrcignally told that the US would only talk to him Aowevser, when the US forces arrived they tookJarlhaio OTher Afghans into custody. 11111•1•Mirdid &Atm who the other prisonert were, or where they were taken. 111111111NWhas not seen them since the US tool control of them. He
• knovirt they Were Afghan, beCause he heard them talking. ‘6 i'll-cl -5-
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I 1111111111111‘insiStedthat h web hi orison -due/hi a debt owed by his younger brother, has tvie bto ars, ohe yolwnd one'older. The younger Jentered into sbusiness within a merchantJwas not affiliated with any politics or government Jgave loc-bec-)-3
b n)r.) 1111.11111111111rnoney for a business venture, from which both parties would share in the profits. However, the busitieswasJqh2rocitable due to a drop in the price of petrol and a drought that adversely affected crops. When elligagEfridet his money, NINNIIMIlaygirctild not pay. President KARZPJ was juower.at this time. 41111¦IBWrTfetoalMIIIIIIIIIIIIItkiitrtti Y ther explaining the situation. 1111111nnliggi'actif ­
ather went to Mazar-e-Sharif to settle the debt, and to get some undisclosed "heart medicine." Once at Mzsar-e-Sharif, the parties employed a mediator to settle the affair, who determined that J Jbrother had to pay back the investment
received from J rother owed 14,000 lakh (100,000 Afg ' nt= one lath). At the time 200 liters of petrol cost 75-80 lakh It was usual sold in 20 gallon container's for 14-15 lakh. -• 17 ri (C)-S-r W-73 ( 0- c ''. ( .-))(.03}b(z)l 6-s-}(9 Me 0-C}41 0) et) =3
61111111111110 father asked for more time to gather the money to pay the d t, butallinwas aaamant that the money must be paid. Rather than see his father go to jail to repay the debt, Jwent in his stead. ,h c 7) fa-.N
brother could not go to prison because he was needed to run the family business. lig...1M family had 15 d s to gather the money, but after 20 days could not find the amount required. 11.11111111111 claimed that J\-b Cl) (Or
at he had been via letter that the debt had now been paid. J

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1110111.111111stated that he was at home circa February 2002. 11111111111111a based this on the fact that he had
been at Camp Delta for 14 months, had spent 5-6monthi in Khandahar, and had been at home for three months
prior to his US capture. According to this placed h'r at home during February 2002.

lo )(t) -S"Jbli tO-3t1 -0a)-3_ et(O-3 11111111111.11,also acknowled d having heard ofJ nd stated thatJwas in charge or was the "Commander" ofJ " a big village. 11111111111118,also admitted to having heard ofaillINIVW?) CCS -3 AIIIIIIIMII. was a "big man" (leader) in the Taliban and is believed to have killed "many" Shia Uzbeks
ila-... s-and peopl before the fall of Mazar-e-Sharif. Jcoclati7(thoat hseheardi this Information on a
BBC broadcas , bt-ficeyr
bel)(0-5-JW "Un--1 ., ber)(d--3Jb(*()...?

aellimadid not acknowledge knowing 41111111111111111=nilliginlinannii, 41111111in
giellILIIIIIIIIKmor MINI11111Jclaimed not to know anyone namedallrilli

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4. REMARKS (Cont rued)J6 '- 3Jbe)(0- 1J,10 (1) (c)-s-
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iliwo triba leader), 61.1111.0 oralinilink. 11.11111.11111did not know the governor of Mazar-e-Sharif, but
admitted that hi3 may have heard of on the Mazar-e-Sharif radio broadcast.

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Ing•1111Inacimitied. to having hJofJ referred-to.asJ by some people.

However,J'did .not.know ifJ had ever met.: 41101611nn-, ())(c)-r doesn't think they.h d•met because1.111111.11W. is "too junior to estingle ilill ¦Illknows nothing , df 1111111111m, but ggested thatellials in MazT•-e-Sharif. Lxr).., lbrbe0.3tl.lt, el ear
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11.111111161111:e li I fir e d to not Verikiii anyone Other thilin Afghans, and specifically mentioned not seeing any -J-
Saudis. Everyone underJ ommand or control in the Taliban was from his tribe. This included four or
five Uzbeks from Uzbekistan.Jadmitted that electricity came from Turkmenistan, but no people. He
later amended this statement by adding that me Turkmen were In Afghanistan, but this was because of the
electricity that was provided. The Turkmen we recognizable by their lack of beards. When they were first. .
observed, everyone asked why the Taliban Jet the walk around without beards, to which the Taliban replied that
they were Turkmen who were only there to provide e Jktricity. ‘

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dmi ea that he .had and of the East Turkmenistan Islamic Movement- (ETIM), either In detention In ....._JCuba and earlier in Khandahar. Hlso knew.thealso Jmembers of this group were JUighurs and that they "prayed for the .11(0 destruction of China." However,1111.110111111.did not know if the Uighurs had fought on the side of the Taliban. Igginigabsaid that .he wasn't familiar with the ETIM , but that he had met approximately ten detainees in "Kilo Block" who spoke of the ETIM. Some of these detainees admitted that they had gone to Afghanistan, but they did say why. LaterJsaid that these detainees were overheard saying they hoped the US would help them against the Chinese and that they ,12ted to get training to fight the Chinese. China apparently treated these people "very bad." When the Uighur detainees became upset and didn't understand why they had been detained, 11=01111111"tiad to calm the down. N '2(-i) (C.)-.S.-t. yi --nceil. sla
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Asugos,admitted that he was also known asall1111111111¦1110, His friends called him this because .of
his success as a wrestling champion;411/1111.meansMill. 111111111Inglkstated that he.was also known as
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pined that he might ha made mistakes i e information provided nng previous interrogations,
but that he was and remains innocen of any offense agai st the US. Jclaimed he had a fever (possibly

a headache), but would continue to nswer questions. thanked the interrogators, but continued his
claims of innocence. Additionally asked for compensation upon release to make up for lost wages
during his period of incarceration. Further, asked for permission to sunbath to clear up his skin rash

and asked If a doctor could arrange this permission. I errogators explained that these issues were outside of their
responsibility and the interrogation was terminated.

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