This investigative report was generated by the Criminal Investigative Task Force (CITF) Report of Investigative Activity and the interview of the detainee at Camp Delta was conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Navy Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS). The detainee being interviewed states he is a UK citizen who converted to Islam in 1995/6 and traveled to Afghanistan to avoid arrest for a violent assault and to attend Al Qaeda training camp. States he saw Osama bin Laden at one of the camps and after the September 11, 2001 attacks he and others took to the field in Afghanistan to fight Jihad before he was captured.
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MitnAber (ISN) , was interviewed at Camp Delta,
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Guantanamo Bay, Cu , on July 29, 2003. Present during , the
interview were Special Agent (SA)1111111111111111111, %Aral Criminal
Investigative Service (NCIS), and SAIIIIMIWFBI. The
interview was conducted in English.IIMIII,rProho_vc.ideTilie
following information:
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111111M111 was shown photographs of several individuals. The
photographs are numbered 1 through 6 and are enclosed in the 1 (
notes. 11111111111kdid not recognize the following:
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hanistan. 111111111111.1111111.19ed at a university in ) ' 4111111111.1VOter told by other 3 interrogatoramtalIMNIMIrriaed electrical engineering, but IIIIIIIIdid not know this before:that. 111111.1 and Illitte,IIIIIIIIIIIIISQTogether for approximately two (2) months in Afghanistan. After the 9/11 attacks,aIMIIIIIIIIrtOrcf 3
that he had visited the World Trade Center in New York.
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there to pick them up om the airport. OM would telephone
in England who would provide him with
information about where to stay and MI6 to mead.* ir(c).-3
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money for then: aal/Milanlaigave them 3000 pounds for-
the three (3) of them. They used a lot of the money for the plane
tickets and spent a lot in Pakistan buying clothes, nice food, and
perftu7ies.1111111,was in charge of keeping up with the money
during their travel.
Once in Afghanistan, stayed in a house ,ylr eio
approximately one week before going to MEM The fraining
was very difficult and11.11111111110i'iiels-Nuit during the first week.
The instructors were tough and people would be punished if they
were caught goofing off After 9/11 the trainees were told that the
Americans would probably bomb the camp. opined the
Americans would bomb ammiliVecause they thought the people
responsible for the attacks were at iiiia1
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know if any of the hijackers were trained .there but thought they
may have been.
Before 9/11, Usama bin Laden (UBL) came to the camp on several
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occasions. 11.11111111.was not excited about seeing him but said ym
others there were worshipping him and kissing his hand.
did not hear the speech but someone told him that during one of . .
UBL's speeches he mentioned that there would be an attack. He did
not give details. Since...Fano/speak. Arabio, he could not
understand what UBL was saying during his speeches. His .
interpreter, eaff/MIRMR, woula give him. a synopsis of the speech after it was over. The speeches were usually about jihad. 1811111111melUBL on one occasion. They talked briefly thtough
the interpreter. immititifUBL why he came to Afghanistan .
and UBL told him because it was the land of jihad.
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would and/or could trave1,4ck to London. This thd fifth
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week oftraining.11111.111frc told they had no
interest in going back to London and told him about their.problems
with the policei3Oere. /Ma said, they were never approached
again. and illar.rdid. not tell them the reason he wanted them to. ,go
to London .
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After the 9/11 attacks,: the trainees and instructors went into the
mountains. They stayed there,for awhile until they got the Order to
leave. They all left in. a big van and went to Kandahar briefly.and
then to a valley in.KhOwst. They remained in hiding and "on the
run" for about two and a half months before they were able to cross
into Pakistan. 111111111111111was rITing to make arrangements to return
to England, but. had trouble retrieving his passport. Once he got it,.
he gave:the passportto.111111111111whaiwas . supposed to make the,_ 4,
arrangeinents forp*.While.in.the valley,11111111111pnet1111.1
and...11W. who Doth had London. accents. nationality
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was Sudanese andil.1111111 was Jamaican. They told him they
trained in .Pakistan.-11111111111101Zantacts in Karachi; .Once
arrived in .Karachi;eallarregaiOned 111.1119/4A-)3 who
gave him instructions about where to stay in. Karachi.
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never met He does not know his nationality.
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1111111111116was asked. about who. he mentioned in a previous interview. advigecsthe was the second in command of a group. in the valley in f4owst. It was a group of Arabs.1111111.1salie -could not describel11.11170),?).
because it was so long. ago. He believes he was from
Canada becaUse cif his name. said he did not kook like an
Arab. k 6 (--7) (ro- r
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AGENT'S NOTE: Once the interview was completed,IIIIIII asked the interrogators about sexual assaults he heard about occurring in the camp. 1/11.1111111peigainced he heard that female interrogators were sexually assaulting the detainees.dMINIWcvr -r further stated that while he was imprisoned in Bagram, he was raped by a female CIA agent. He said that during an interrogation he was told that if he did not tell the truth, then "things" would be done to him. He was questioned about UBL and swearing a bayat
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(oath) to him. 1111MIt I9s ci%e denied thathe swore an oath to
UBL. He did admit to his training at 1101111111.
4't""14r) The following day, he was taken to medical and handcuffed to the bed with a hood over his head. A female came into the room and started to rub her chest on him. She removed his pants and fondled his private with her hand until he was erect. She then raped him. He was told "the next time it will be a man." After this he told the interrogators that he made the oath to UBL. He also started to complain ofbeiRg s__ tortured in Bagram. It should be noted that MOM fias been questioned numerous times since arriving at Guantanamo Bay and this is the first time he has mentioned this alleged sexual assault. It is possible that this is an effort on part to retract his earlier statements regarding his oath to UBL. ( -))re)-7-
Involved Participants
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