Criminal Investigative Task Force (CITF) Interview of Guantanamo Bay Detainee re: Pakistani Detainee who Lived in UK Explains Financing Al Qaeda Organizations from His Bookstore

This investigative report was generated by the Criminal Investigative Task Force (CITF) Report of Investigative Activity and the Navy Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS). The detainee maintains his innocents and requested to take a polygraph to prove he is telling the truth about not being associated with Al Qaeda or terrorism. He stated that he "had taken care of women and children who were families of Ai Qaeda associates" and that if that were a crime, he would serve a sentence for that. He acknowledged sending 200-300 English Pounds to Al Qaeda training camps where he once trained, but stated he did not know that it was illegal to send money to certain groups considered terrorist, and that he never provided money to groups that targeted the U.S. or UK. The detainee owned a bookstore in the UK and when asked about providing material assistance and support for Terrorism and Al Qaeda he "explained that he sold many different kinds of books, including anti-terrorism books, not Just Al Qaeda based literature."

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Investigative File
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Wednesday, April 30, 2003
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Tuesday, December 20, 2005
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CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIVE TASK FORCE (CITF
REPORT OF INVESTIGATIVE ACTIVITY
1. DATE OF INVESTIGATIVE ACTIVITY 2. PLACE 3. ACTIVRY NUMBER
30 Apr 03 GTMO, Cuba 411011.1111. to2.1-5

4. REMARKS
Subject Interview of: (UNK) !4(1 CO- .5--
Date/Place: 30 Apr 03/GTMO, Cuba
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0 30 Apr 03, Internment Serial Number (ISN) in iewed by SA 11111111111111111.1.1., Naval riminal Investigative Service (NCIS) and SA!Air Force Office of Special Investigaiii (AFOSI), at Camp Echo, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The interview was conducted in the English language, as!understanding was fluent
This interview was conducted in an effort to confirm the health and welfare offal, During the course of the
interview, elitdiscussed the following concerns with his situation.
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denied that he had an ft her knowledge of terrorism, terrorist associates or terrorist acts that he had not
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previously provided.!advised that he wanted to be given a polygraph examination to confirm that he has been truthful with interrogators. airstated that he had expressed his desire to undergo the polygraph examination while in Afghanistan.!6 t7)a)-r-

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11111111aplained that he was unhapp with the tement b-had signed. e stated that the statement was written for him and that he had problems wi the wording. !stated that was provided the statement by interrogators and given time to read a d edit it afore signing. !informed that while editing the statement he
had identified several "outright lies."!ad sod that he identified the information he felt to be fabricated. The
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statement was revised and again presented to!4111.11Fu er advised that the final draft statemtplyiptchbe ultimately signed, contained wording that changed the context of Information he had provided. illipMained one example of this context issue was apparent in the references to the three to four Al Qaeda books he had sold at his
l'bookstore. explained that he sold many different kinds of books, including anti-terrorism books, not Just Al fir'!QaedaQaeda based lite ure.!enied that the profits from the book sales went to support Al Qaeda. In addition, thathis bookst e made little profit at all. !rther advised that he had told interrogators that i
•Eir normal clrcu stances he ould have insisted he have lawyer present before signing the written statement
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IIIIIIPidvised that he had sen money to a training camp he had attended 10 years prior to his capture. He explained that the he had not been expected to pay for the training that he was provided, thus when he returned to the United Kingdom he sent approximately 200 to 300 pounds to the training camp. !advised that he had also sent money to support Bosnia and Chechnya. !stated that If he was considered a m jor financier of terrorism, then there were hundreds of thousands of other peo e who needed to be looked at becaus they also supported these causes. 4, eD) 6)- r
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(denied that he provided support to any group that targeted the United States (US) or Britain.
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iffarcontinued to explain that he was in Pakistan when the US attacked Afghanistan.!iaimed that he should have left sooner but decided to stay because he was a resident in Pakistan.allOadvised that once things became bad he decided to leave versus stay and fight; however, he knew some individua s who had stayed to fight
THIS DOCUMENT CONTAINS NEITHER RECOMMENDATIONS NOR CONCLUSIONS OF CITF. IT IS THE PROPERTY OF THE CITF AND IS LQANED TO YOUR AGENCY; THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT TO BE RELEASED OUTSIDE YOUR AGENCY.
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tated that he was willing to except the "facts" if they were specific to a crime he had committed. He advised
that he had taken care of women and children who were families of Ai Qaeda associates. Illirstated he would
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algadvised that he had been told during a past Interview that he uld be sentenced to life in prison or in some places he would have been shot for the crimes he committed. dstated he asked what crimes he had been
• charged with and after one year of imprisonment he was told that he was a an "unlawful combatant." tated ­he had also been told by interrogators throughout the course of his investigation he could be sentenced for anywhere between one, five, fifty, to one hundred years in prison. misstated he did'not know what an acceptable plea would be because he was unaware of the specific crimes he was cliarged with.
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Durindcourse of me interview...vented his frustration during which he provide the following comments.
claimed that he was threatened with torture in a previous interview. He also stated that previous interrogators told him that he was no good a witness if he had not committee a crime. dadvised that he would discuss these issue with his defense when one Is appointed. d b t-”et
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elliradvised that he was willing to dight" for hiS case if an offered plea agreement was unreasonable...IP clarified that he wanted to be with hiS children while they were still young. Oil 7)^cJ -S"
THIS DOCUMENT CONTAINS NEITHER RECOMMENDATIONS NOR CONCLUSIONS OF CITF. IT IS THE PROPERTY OF THE CITF AND IS LOANED TO YOUR AGENCY; THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT TO BE RELEASED OUTSIDE YOUR AGENCY.
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