Criminal Investigative Task Force (CITF) Interview of Guantanamo Bay Detainee re: Events leading up to Incarceration

This investigative report was generated by the Criminal Investigative Task Force (CITF) Report of Investigative Activity and the interview of the detainee at Camp Delta was conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Navy Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS). The detainee says he is innocent of all charges of being part of Al Queda. He states he was never in Afghanistan and was picked up in Pakistan after losing his passport (which was acquired by bribery and with false information) and that the only reason he was in Pakistan was to attend school, but he did not attend school once there. Instead he traveled around with two (2) men “teaching and reading the Koran in various mosques” then he was captured. He states he knows nothing about the September 11, 2001 attacks or about terrorism.

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Investigative File
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Friday, June 13, 2003
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Tuesday, December 20, 2005
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CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIVE TASK FORCE REPORT OF INVESTIGATIVE ACTIVt 134
3. ACTIVITY NUMBER 0
2. PLACE
1. DATE OF INVESTIGATIVE ACTIVITY

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Guantanamo Bay, Cuba13 Jun 03
4. REMARKS
Subject Interview of: (UNK)OPIIIIMORIMMIV
Date/Place: 13 Jun 03/Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
InterVieWerS: SA Ft. Belvoir CITF - GITMO

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him in English and he would respond in Arabic, with a little English at times.
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vel to Pakistan with the

was never in Afghanistan prior to being taken there for custodial purposes. He did not tra
gaining an education.

intended goal of traveling into Afghanistan. He went to Pakistan solely for the purpose of
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amINOwas about 16 years old when he went to the Chadian Embassy in Saudi Areason for this was, even
obtain a passport. He was sad that no one in his family could get a Saudi passport. The
ople in the embassy told

though he was born in Saudi Arabia, he is not considered a citizen of the country. The pe
Ise passport said he was

him that he would be given a passport with a false name and a false date of birth. The fa
to be done. He was told it

either 18 or 19 years old. He did not understand why this was done, nor did he ask for it
had to be this way in order for him to leave the country.
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hen went to the Pakistani Embassy in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. He told the m he was applying for a s good for because it was
student visa so he could go and study in Pakistan. He did not know how long the visa wa
written in English and at the time, he could not read English.

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he arrived in Pakistan. 1111111111111111ret up with tw g9' men after arriving in Pak tan, and or

acted as a translator fora,
insisted it was just a chance meeting whe he met these two men. used to live in Saudi Arabia because he b
was from Pakistan but dominlabelieve
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have to wait to enroll.
could get into. One school was located inside a computer store in
IIIIII1Mto two schools, neither one of which he , oy )7iKarachi. Besides selling the computers, the store taught people how to work the computers. He could not get into this school. Another school, also in Karachi, was an Islamic teaching center, and this center also taught computers. could not recall the name of either school. He did not know
He could not get into this school either. 411111111111!
when he would be eligible for the schools. He didn have a list of possible schools when he left Saudi Arabia, he
as unsuccessful.

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was the drive a iii also acted as the translator. The three of them would travel around and go
their work.
to various mosques. 111/11111111111.7ioes of speak the native language, therefore, he didn't know the names of the
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mosques because they weren't in Arabic. He went to many mosques in Karachi, Peshawar, and other small villages. Some times they would eat and sleep in the mosques. None of them had any form of income. 411111.11•11.1 \c,,Y had worked before leaving SaudiArabia so he had cash, which he had brought with him. He does not know where _and41111/110 Wifig oney. They did their work in the name of God. When they had to buy theirwm
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food and as
traveled around for four o five months, teaching and reading the Koran in various mosques.
reminded that he went to Pak tan to learn with the intention of returning to Saudi Arabia and helping his family. He
was asked if, during that four o five months, he tried to get into school again. He stated he did not, that he liked

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what he was doing. He indic ted he had "9 months" to get his "certificate" which would show he had received an
education. advi d if he had not been captured, he would have eventually gotten the education he

wanted. (-•)CO-S-66c. )Cc) -3
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While traveling around,
the incident of 9-11 until he was captured and told about I b the Paki anis. When IMMIliwent to the
nd tayed outside. He could not say

Pakistani Police Department to report his lost passport,
why they did not come into the Police Station with him. He was immediately arrested. One of the policeman told
ied to bluff the police officer and said if they let

him that he was going to be sold to the United States.
pay them He said the lice didn't like that idea and refused to releasehim go he would go and get mone an oesn't know what happened to them and he Lox°.
him. never saw again. He 3 doesn't feel an ill will that they didn try to get hi released. He oes not believe that either Mr"la'
belong to any type of org nization. Th y were doing a wa. He does not believe that y one person or
oes not know wh
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was eventually moved to KOHAT prison. He never heard any of the other detainees in KOHAT talk
about other attacks on the United States or any suicide missions. If he heard anything like that, he would tell. He
never met any of his fellow prisoners in KOHAT prison prior to being incarcerated with them. The only thing the
prisoners talked about was trying to escape. He does not have any first hand knowledge about any prisoners
escaping, but he thinks some may have, with the help of the guards.

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d over to the Americans and incarcerated in Kandahar,
eventually left KOHAT pris n and was turn ed and yelled at. He was hit and kicked on occasion. He
Afghanistan. While in Kandahar, was blindf QF
e just some swelling. He stated that while still blindfolded, an
does not believe that he had any visible injuries, ma
was Al Qaeda and he was also Usama Bin Laden. He stated

unknown person told him he (meaning he responded back by saying the Bin Laden is white and he is black. The unknown person, who spoke with an Egyptian dialect, asked if he was mocking him. He was then hit again. When the blindfold was taken off, all he saw were Americans, which lead him to believe that it was the Americans who hit him, even though he never actually saw his attacker.
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Yester)411111111111 was Level 1. He told a guard that it was shower day and the guard didn't want to lye
them one.)persisted and the guard called someone and then agreed that it was shower day.
nd the othbr detainees were given showers and when)etumed to his cell they had moved
him to L vet 4. He stated it is only temporary and he is hoping he can m e to Camp 4 soon.

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