Memo summarizes the interview of a Camp Delta detainee. The interview was conducted by two Special Agents with the FBI and NCIS. The detainee was questioned specifically about his capture by the Northern Alliance (some of the detainee's accounts were difficult to follow, in part due to redactions). The detainee said he was captured and abused by Northern Alliance members. He stated that he was put into a truck and then into a ditch where he spent the night. Three days after his capture, he and about 100 others were forced into what appeared to be a metal shipping container, the container did not have windows, it only had small holes in the top for ventilation. After the container was closed, the detainee blacked out from the lack of air. About 24 hours later, the detainee awoke and saw what appeared to be bullet holes on the wall of the container, he also discovered a "grazing type wound" on his right elbow, and saw that some of the detainees were dead. The detainee believed that only about 20 detainees survived. He later heard that the dead were put into a big hole and buried. Also, he heard that some of the men who were too weak to get out of the container on their own were also buried. The detainee believed the the container traveled from Mazar-e-Sharif to the Sabergaan jail.
The detainee described the Northern Alliance members as 'Chinese' people. Also, he recalled at one of the stops seeing a big-tall man, who appeared to be Caucasian, wearing jeans and recalled seeing the man take pictures of the trucks and their occupants.
The U.S. soldiers arrived to Sabergaan jail about a month later. After the U.S. soldiers arrived, detainees received about an inch of water and a piece of bread (2" in diameter) per day, also, some of the men with prior injuries did not receive medical treatment, this resulted in detainees dying of starvation or dying from their injuries. The detainee was subsequently transferred to Camp X-Ray, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, while there, the detainee recalled seeing a detainee get severely beaten by the U.S. Army Military Police, others observed 10-12 guards engage in the abuse. One guard repeatedly beat the detainee's head into the cement, while several others kicked the detainee.
29 Jan 03 Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
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Subject Interview of: (UNK)S110.111111W ivocc)-c
Date/Place: 29 Jan 03/Guantanarno Bay, Cuba
111111111111.1.1k, ISN:11111111111111111111¦11 was interviewed at Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by Special
Agent \-.6(')(6-5; 7)(04 b Cc 5 br-ive)-
11.11¦1111. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and 1•111.11111111111111111l, Naval Criminal
Investigative Service
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(NCIS). The interview was conducted in English and.11111111.was advised of the reason for the interview. Mail was questioned specifically about his capture by the Northern Alliance near Kondoz, Afghanistan and his ‘--` ()) C0-5--subsequent transfer to Mazar-e-Sharif. lo -Around November 20 or November 21, 2001,111116and his comrades were trying to get out of Kondoz.
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and others jumped in the bedt of trucks. The trucks drove for a while, then came to a river, where they were
forced
to get out of the trucks. Their plan was to surrender to United Nations forces. At about 0100 to 0200, more
trucks
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appeared. MIK was going to get into one of these trucks but his friend, ISN:
had failed to put his shoes on. He waited foil...Mend while waiting, the trucks they
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going to get in to, drove off. Some planes flew overhead. Since it was dark he could not see the markings on
the
planes. The planes used some type of bomb or incendiary device and proceeded to blow up the trucks that
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was Initially going to get into. saw many people die or get severely injured_
and another friend,11111111111.11111ft(ISN:4111•1 ¦1111), started walking. They
could \-190)a) -&-
hear gunfire in the distance. They also heard helicopters. The men walked back towards the river and
observed
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women crying. The women were locals whose homes had been destroyed by the planes...II estimateded
that
eight to nine trucks were destroyed. They were full of people trying to surrender. He believes that between
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400 people were killed when the trucks blew up. Had his friend, been ready, with his shoes on, , „,, ?MIL and would have died on one of the trucks. ANN&saw Taliban and Afghanis driving by in different vehicles.. He jumped in a Pakistani truck in an 61.1/0-fattempt to
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get away from the area. The truck drove away and was eventually stopped by the Northern Alliance...I
and the •
others in the truck were forced to get out. The Northern Alliance soldiers took their jackets, money, and
shoes. The
Northern Alliance soldiers were not in any type of uniform. They did not have guns at this time. They looked
like
civilians. kc co-S-
MENBC6na hi group were forced to walk through a valley, between two high hills. He could see people on
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hills with guns and camcorders. They were videotaping the group of walkers. MIL was searched again
and his
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On the second day after his capture,0111111hwas put into a ditch by the Northern Alliance soldiers.M1111.
described the Northern Alliance as "Chinese" people. He spent all night in the ditch. On the third day trucks
showed
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up and the prisoners were allowed to jump into the trucks. and got into
one
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truck, andemb got into another truck full of Afghanis.
The trucks drove for a while and stopped at an unknown location...II saw one big, tall, caucasian,
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looking man who was wearing blue jeans. The man was taking pictures of the trucks and the occupants. The
man -then left andall!did not see him again. The trucks started up again and drove off. At night, they arrived
at IgC7)CC) -c-i9 (C) -
Mazar-e-Sharff1111111111111.saw lines of people holding guns. The truck that1111111116was inoacken up to a large
container and the occupants of the bed of the truck were forced into the container.
1111111111described the container as being red in color, looking like a shipping container. It was about the size
of 6 -.N2 co- -
detainee cells at Camp Delta, but wider. It had no windows and only small holes near the top for ventilation.
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container was made of metal.$111111‘ estimated that at least 100 men were forced into the container. The
container
was then closed. People inside began to scream and bang on the outside of the container, but no one
opened it.
111111111blacked out due to lack of air while it was still dark outside. He came to when it was light and noticed
that it N7 (-ha)
appeared there were new holes in the outside wall of the container. He noticed that the metal was pushed
inward,
towards the people inside the container, as if something had punctured the container from the outside. He
said he
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had a grazing type wound on his right elbow which he thought may have been from a bullet.41111111b.thoug
the
punctures in the metal container may have come from gunfire. He does not believe that the puncture holes
were
present prior to his blacking out.
—noticed the man next to him was dead. He saw green foam coming from the man's
had %-bc---) cc)-s--. (,)co-s-not eaten or drank anything for two days. He was still not given anything to eat or drink. The men in the container
took cloths and rubbed them against the ceiling of the container to get the condensation that had ,acqumulated there. 12elithiy rung the cloths out so they could drink the water. \ II!believes he was in the container for approximately 24 hours. He estimated that only about 20 people survived the ordeal. When the contained was finally opened,11111111kW26V
epeople who opened the container wore the same
type ip0)(0-S`
of civilian clothes he had seen earlier on the Northern Alliance soldiers. Mit was put into the container at
Mazar-e-Sharif and when it was opened they were at Sabergaan jail. The container had been moved while
he was in
it.
A doctor treated his arm with iodine after his release.
1111111111116could not say why he was put into the container. He thought it might have been because he looked
more (,) CO -
like an Afghani than a Pakistani. MEL did not see wnat happened to the deceased, but later heard that the
captures had gone through their pockets and taken money and personal items. The dead were put into a big
hole
and buried. He also heard that some of the men who were too weak to get out of the container on their own
were put
into the hole also.
The U.S. soldiers arrived at Sabergaan jail about one month afterm ¦was released from the container.
(=Vs initial capture and placement into the container were the three worst days of his life...III does
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he was meant to die, he was meant to stay alive.
After his release111111t met up with ¦andall¦They had not been put into the container.
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clothes were very smelly and he threw them out. Even after his release he orily received about a 1" of water
in a cup,
per day, and piece of bread that was about 2" in diameter, per day.
ilkrecalled one of the prisoners whose face was blown off. The man was alive but so injured he could
not -iv cACC)-s-
eat. He didd eight days after111111‘ gfcQn-fred him. The man never received any medical treatment.
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did not know who the man was, only that he was an Arab. Many others died of starvation. After the Red
Cross and
that.
improvediaki1C61 hT e to ine-Tail, but
he never
saw him.
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who called himself1111111111111. He did not meetaIllilkuntil he was at Sabergaan jail. He stated
spoke good
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English and claimed to be from Karachi, Pakistan.d111111111never told bwhat he did in Karachi.
ellatwasilvbcsepently transferred to Guahtanamo Bay, Cuba. He was initially held at Camp X-Ray. On
April c")) CO -.5-.1.ina)
27, 2002,41., tammomenimmlnuillill1111114, an 11111•11=1* '6(1) CO—'S--observed a detainee by the name of "1111111111111111111.111111111,/be71(geilverely beat by U.S. Army Military Police.
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the others observed
0 to 12 guards get involved in the altercation. One guard repeatedly hit 111111 ¦1
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head into
the cement. Several other guards kicked him and even a female guard came up and kicked=1111
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received a broken nose from ie incident and has scar on his nose today.
The detainee next t friend, is number "1111111.011.rni l
says that was a member of the Northern Alliance, not a Tailban.
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