The document includes notes from interviews conducted with FBI personnel David Ayres, regarding his knowledge of FBI intelligence-gathering strategies and interrogation techniques, discussions of different intelligence-gathering approaches, and FBI assessments of military intelligence gathered at Guantanamo Bay.
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Created: 2/23/2009 3:33:40 PM
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February 2001 to February 2005 David Ayres served as Chief of Staff to John Ashcroft. I :30.
Part of duties was to vet issues that would go to John Ashcroft that might have interagency
ramifications or be subject to interagency discussions. 2:20.
David Ayres
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David Ayres said "we were trying to transform Federal Bureau of Investigation into an
organization that would prevent attacks as opposed to reacting to attacks." 4:00. David Ayres
was aware that the Federal Bureau of Investigation sent agents to U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo
Bay, Cuba. but does not recall the time period when agents were there. He does not recall the
mechanics of how that was put together. 4:45.
David Ayres
Interview 1 at
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Federal Bureau of Investigation wanted to be at U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in Iraq
and Afghanistan and the Department of Justice wanted them their too because they believe that
the Federal Bureau of Investigation would be good at collecting intelligence. "Our" view from a
"policy standpoint" was that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is "better" is at collecting
"strategic information — long term information — which is usually done by cultivating
relationships, as opposed to short-term tactical intelligence which might be achieved using
military techniques or other aggressive practices." 6:30. We took the view that the Federal
Bureau of Investigation was skilled at developing relationships with subjects because of their
training, and that those relationships (and the criminal justice system generally, which operates
with a system or rewards and sanctions which channels individuals towards cooperating over the
long term) is a better way to gather intelligence than the more tactical techniques that might be
used by other agencies." We felt that was a good approach for us to take this situation. Our
view as that long term cooperation leads to better cooperation and leads us to better protect the
country. 7:30.
David Ayres
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00:07:30.
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